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But the question still begs, did Seifert József have his own scope mount(s) and file for patent protection? I will have to thumb thru the German patents to see. In fact Seifert József may have expired @ or just before the scope craze and his son or his mechanics may have devised a scope mount system?

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

In fact, Seifert József and Charles Daly all but led parallel lives, but on different tectonic plates. The two are almost mirror images of one another.


Serbus,

Raimey
rse

The (Royal) Hungarian Patent Office was founded in 1896. https://sztnh.gov.hu/en/home/hipo-130

But a patent could as well have been applied for in Vienna or in Berlin. After 1919, Bratislava (as Preßburg / Pozsony was then called) belonged to the Czechoslowakian Republic,so Karl Seifert might as well have a patent filed there. His national competitors would have sat in Weipert / Vejprty, also directly situated on the (other) border.

Seeing Pozsony/Preßburg/Bratislava and Vejprty, are separated by say 460 km, and you note Vejprty(Prague generally) having National Competitors of Seifert József, did these two areas for the most part supply the needs of the Hunters of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, i.e., did the Austro Hungarian Empire mainly source wares from the West margin of the Empire¿


Lẹ̑p Pozdrȁv,

Raimey
rse

Apparently, Johann Springer's Erben biggest clients were of the House of Lubomirski, Polish szlachta(Nobility). Then the Russians arrived @ the end of WWII and confiscated all the Guns, & possibly more, and that's how so many Bohemian examples landed up in Russia; much like that of all the German Guns that landed up in the U.S. of A. Pozsony/Preßburg/Bratislava - Vienna was a collection point for cultures and about any else & it was there that Seifert József left his mark.....



Serbus,

Raimey
rse

Yes, Springer and Seifert they were both merchants, and had their suppliers and gunsmiths (and of course, also an in-house mechanic or two). Josef Seifert was ethnically German, but Hungarian was the official language in the then (post-1867) heavily magyarized Kingdom of Hungary, and was also considered posh, even in numerous German households.
Thanks to the posted advertizements, we can see that he pandered his goods both in German and in Hungarian. From what little I could discern from an Hungarian firearms blog, he or at least his firm (under his son Karl) was also one of the Colt distributors of Hungary, apart from e.g. Josef or Julius Kirner.

As to their pre-1918 customers, they were not equal in rank. Julius Springer was not a mere Hoflieferant (purveyor to the Court), of which there were thousands in Austria-Hungary. He was a KAMMERLIEFERANT, and as such probably more aristocratic than many courtiers. Josef Seifert certainly did not count only commoners among his clientèle, but still a significant part of the Western Hungarian aristocracy.