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want to change vertical poi...

ta da!


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Steve Smith used to recommend a pitch change for adjusting elevation.
A tapered shim is cheap enough.
No loss if it doesn’t work for you.
Some brands now come with shim packs .

That doesn't work if you cheek the comb, but only if you shoot it waaaay old style heads up.

Guess why English gun makers had such complicated try stocks ?

I liken this discussion to The currently out of fashion story of Little Black Sambo.

Round and round and round in circles we go until we end up turning to butter and as a happy aside, everybody gets to eat pancakes.

Probably the second shotgun ever produced needed personal fitting.
Everything else is just running round and round the bush.

If a person is serious about competition, the expectation is that you will have the gun fitted to you for the best scores.
The closer to exactly circular50-50 distributions at 55 yards. You are able to deliver the shot, the higher your scores will be.

For casual shooters, occasional hunters, collectors. It’s probably far less anxiety provoking to just moderate your expectations.

"For casual shooters, occasional hunters, collectors. It’s probably far less anxiety provoking to just moderate your expectations."

yep...






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The problem with "fitting the shooter to the gun" is that when:
1. Bird hunting and a grouse or covey flushes in the thick stuff, one does not have the luxury of carefully mounting the gun, placing the leading hand in just the right position, then checking to confirm that you are looking down (maybe slightly over) the rib.
2. When shooting 100 Sporting Clays targets, esp. in the heat of the summer, the shooter gets tired. If the gun doesn't fit (hits where he is looking without contortions) he's going to start missing targets.
IMHO even casual shooters like hitting targets more than missing targets.
But gun dealers are of course free to sell folks guns that don't fit, and try to convince them it doesn't matter if they would just fit themselves to the gun.
BTW I have no problems using lots of drop stocks because I'm tall with long arms and crawl the stock with the comb low on my face.

All true.


...though I'm also tall with long arms and I crawl the stock...but I can't shoot guns with lots of drop well at all...

doc, looks like you posted to the wrong thread here...

this thread is about using pitch spacers to either raise or lower poi...

an not about fitting the shooter to the gun...

Thank you for your moderation ed. I posted where I wanted to post. We have 3 threads going now regarding gun fit, to which you have contributed your insights, and CZ mentioned gun fitting.
IMHO folks tend to lose interest after 3 or 4 pages of repetitive verbiage.

well doc, this thread is about the specific use of pitch spacers to influence poi...

cz chose to reference the broad topic of gun fitting...

that did not give you license to carry on about the the merits of fitting a gun to a shooter, or vice versa...

and cz's point wuz:

"If a person is serious about competition, the expectation is that you will have the gun fitted to you for the best scores.
The closer to exactly circular50-50 distributions at 55 yards. You are able to deliver the shot, the higher your scores will be."

of this, I agree...

it would be very beneficial, if we would exhibit more discipline in staying on topic...

and refrain from resorting to attack mode to express our views...

doc, are you continuing to do God's work by healing the blind, so to speak?

Physician, heal thyself. If you can't stay on topic on your own thread, while chastising others for not doing so, why do you expect that of others?

chastise? hardly...

"and refrain from resorting to attack mode to express our views..."

yeah Stan, that includes you...

Nah, ed. You were absolutely chastising, in your New Hampshah' way.

Did you, or did you not go off topic in your post to Doc Drew?

New Hampshire way?

now you are attacking nh?

watts up wid dat?








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Just answer the question.

like, why do you continue trashing my threads with impunity?

Not trashing anything. Just pointing out your hypocrisy. It knows no bounds.

"why do you continue trashing my threads with impunity?"

Therein lies the problem ed. This is not 'your' thread. No post is proprietary. We post by the permission and the at the pleasure of the owner of the site, who chooses to limit his moderation.
Playing the victim (the favorite defense of the narcissist) is distasteful when done by an adult male, esp. a faux-Southern Gentleman.
And maybe don't use the Forum as a venue to peddle your "museum quality" guns by asking questions, if you don't like the accurate opinions elicited.

gee doc, disappointed at your hostility...

thought better of you...

as the originator of a thread, any of us can claim some parental rights?

my inquiry regarding your humanitarian medical work was genuine...

does your organization ever send you to Chile?