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Hello
I have been in contact with NECG in USA as they used to have Deeley style fore end latches, but they confirm me that they are no longer in production.
maybe someone knows a source for new ones in white, or any old one from scrapped guns?
Best regards
Paco
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pacomb, You should be able to find a used one, luckily, they haven't changed much over the years. The lug under the barrels will tell you which way to mount the latch. Mike
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thanks SKB for the information. Forging would be my last option, as it has a lot of work ahead. It can be done, but if I can find a used one much better
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pacomb, You should be able to find a used one, luckily, they haven't changed much over the years. The lug under the barrels will tell you which way to mount the latch. Mike Not that easy Mike, not that easy.... I have been searching for a long time and nothing. Any way, the idea of getting one is that I have a dream project, a take down rifle. I wanted to use a Spanish made Santa Barbara Mauser 98 to make one, enhance it, personalize it, and make it with a take down system. I have seen one that was made time ago, the idea was good, but the execution was poorly made. The locking system is the key factor. That rifle had only a spring loaded ball, and when fired, you could feel the fore end wood moving.... After researching , i noticed most Rigby takedown rifles had the deeley style lever latch, if fitted correctly with a sliding latch to the action, that should make a solid unit. Of course we are always talking about small/medium calibers. ![[Linked Image from cacciapalla.it]](https://www.cacciapalla.it/wp-content/uploads/sites/3/2021/07/PHOTO-2020-05-22-18-22-49.jpg) In any case, the Deeley Style latch for me if the preferred method, so nice and beautiful compared with the modern push button in the fore end front. I was wondering, is it possible to convert a normal modern push button to a Deeley style latch??? Making a new wood fore end.... I have a lovely Spanish made express, that maybe one day I change the stock. If I have a Deeley style latch kept for the moment, it could be the moment to install it if it is possible
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pacomb We in the USA were fortunate to have old "country" gunsmiths that saved old guns that were no longer useable and stripped them of parts to repair other guns. In the late 1800s-early 1900s, inexpensive Belgian double barrel shotguns were popular with farmers and other working people. These old guns were often the ones stripped for parts, including Deeley style latches. Most of these old gunsmiths have passed on and their old saved old parts were either thrown out or kept somewhere in a basement by heirs that don't know what they are for. Some old Spanish double guns also used Deeley style latches, so your task is to find an old Spanish gunsmith or the grandson of one that still has the parts you need stored away somewhere. Failing that, you may be able to buy one from a maker of modern double barrel guns. BTY, in my opinion if you finish your project, you will have a fine rifle that your heirs will be very proud of someday. Spain has a very old tradition of hunting, and I am satisfied that somewhere there is someone that will be happy to help you with your project. Mike
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pacomb We in the USA were fortunate to have old "country" gunsmiths that saved old guns that were no longer useable and stripped them of parts to repair other guns. In the late 1800s-early 1900s, inexpensive Belgian double barrel shotguns were popular with farmers and other working people. These old guns were often the ones stripped for parts, including Deeley style latches. Most of these old gunsmiths have passed on and their old saved old parts were either thrown out or kept somewhere in a basement by heirs that don't know what they are for. Some old Spanish double guns also used Deeley style latches, so your task is to find an old Spanish gunsmith or the grandson of one that still has the parts you need stored away somewhere. Failing that, you may be able to buy one from a maker of modern double barrel guns. BTY, in my opinion if you finish your project, you will have a fine rifle that your heirs will be very proud of someday. Spain has a very old tradition of hunting, and I am satisfied that somewhere there is someone that will be happy to help you with your project. Mike Hello Mike, Here in Spain, sadly arms legislation is so so soooooo TIGHT, when a gun is for scrap, you have to take it to the police (Guardia Civil), and they will destroy and MELT it... Yes, melt it. And you cant remove parts easily, at most, secondary parts, but never a "fundamental part", that is the action, bolt, and barrels. I really doubt I can find a deeley latch in Spain, I would be VERY surprised. Hopefully, a member of the forum may have and can help me or maybe someone sees it locally or online and can let me know. I still have he doubt if a normal fore end with the push button, can be transformed to the deeley latch
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pacomb, You have shown, once again, how lucky we are to have Second Amendment protections. It is absolutely silly for your leaders to think a project such as yours would ever be used in any illegal way. Really, if you can find a double gun with a Deeley latch, it would not be beyond your capability to take it apart and copy it part by part. I have had them apart and the pieces are not especially complicated, with only one needing hardening and you can purchase the spring and screws you need from common sources. This would be easier than converting a "normal" one with push rod to a Deeley type. Mike
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