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Re: Joh. Springer's Erben - 1910 - 16 X 11.5mm(450 Cal ellenbr #677176 07/20/26 01:18 AM
Joined: Dec 2024 Posts: 262 Likes: 61 Germany Carcano Sidelock
Carcano Sidelock Joined: Dec 2024 Posts: 262 Likes: 61 Germany	Just for comparison's fun, I looked up the retail prices from "shm" (Süddeutsche Hülsenmanufaktur, that's Mr. Zirngibl in Schierding). The 6,5x70R clocks at 4,34 €. Expensive in my opinion, but they enjoy the opposite reputation of crappy Bertram, namely a very good one. Their 6,5x58R are at 4,12 €, the 7x72R at 3,66 €, the 8x57 R360 at 3,12 € and the 8x58R at 3,53 €. The former Horneber case production closed in 2021, and has been acquired by Reimer Johannsen, but I am not currently informed inhowfar and for which calibers they still continue.

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Joh. Springer's Erben - 1910 - 16 X 11.5mm(450 Cal	ellenbr	07/11/26 08:45 PM
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Re: Joh. Springer's Erben - 1910 - 16 X 11.5mm(450 Cal	Der Ami	07/15/26 12:54 PM
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Re: Joh. Springer's Erben - 1910 - 16 X 11.5mm(450 Cal	Der Ami	07/16/26 12:29 PM
Re: Joh. Springer's Erben - 1910 - 16 X 11.5mm(450 Cal	Carcano	07/18/26 10:43 AM
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Re: Joh. Springer's Erben - 1910 - 16 X 11.5mm(450 Cal	Der Ami	07/19/26 01:19 PM
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Re: Joh. Springer's Erben - 1910 - 16 X 11.5mm(450 Cal	Carcano	07/20/26 05:18 AM
Re: Joh. Springer's Erben - 1910 - 16 X 11.5mm(450 Cal	ellenbr	07/20/26 11:57 AM
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Re: Joh. Springer's Erben - 1910 - 16 X 11.5mm(450 Cal	Der Ami	07/20/26 04:16 PM
Re: Joh. Springer's Erben - 1910 - 16 X 11.5mm(450 Cal	Carcano	07/20/26 04:56 PM
Re: Joh. Springer's Erben - 1910 - 16 X 11.5mm(450 Cal	Carcano	07/20/26 03:48 PM
Re: Joh. Springer's Erben - 1910 - 16 X 11.5mm(450 Cal	ellenbr	07/20/26 06:41 PM
Re: Joh. Springer's Erben - 1910 - 16 X 11.5mm(450 Cal	Der Ami	07/21/26 03:30 PM

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