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Re: Joh. Springer's Erben - 1910 - 16 X 11.5mm(450 Cal ellenbr #677437 07/26/26 12:04 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 12,744 Likes: 523 North Alabama ellenbr OP Sidelock
OP ellenbr Sidelock Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 12,744 Likes: 523 North Alabama	Ford: Would you anneal, then resize & trim or Resize & Trim then Anneal? Hochachtungsvoll, Raimey rse

Re: Joh. Springer's Erben - 1910 - 16 X 11.5mm(450 Cal ellenbr #677438 07/26/26 12:05 PM
Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 5,075 Likes: 423 East Alabama Der Ami Sidelock
Der Ami Sidelock Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 5,075 Likes: 423 East Alabama	Raimey, Ok, that answers what I was wondering about Bertram cases and why there are so many complaints about them. It seems that, at least for 6.5x70 R and maybe some others, they are not selling ready to use cases, but rather basic cases to be formed into cartridge specific cases. That is ok as long as it is understood that significant work will be required to make useable cases; in fact, this is useful to know when forming cases for other similar cartridges. Mike

Re: Joh. Springer's Erben - 1910 - 16 X 11.5mm(450 Cal ellenbr #677440 07/26/26 12:38 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 12,744 Likes: 523 North Alabama ellenbr OP Sidelock
OP ellenbr Sidelock Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 12,744 Likes: 523 North Alabama	Yeah Ford, there is not a Head Stamp.... Blank.... Hochachtungsvoll, Raimey rse

Re: Joh. Springer's Erben - 1910 - 16 X 11.5mm(450 Cal ellenbr #677491 07/27/26 01:56 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 12,744 Likes: 523 North Alabama ellenbr OP Sidelock
OP ellenbr Sidelock Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 12,744 Likes: 523 North Alabama	Shot a handful of rounds this morning thru the Springer & obtained an average velocity of 2220 ft/s. The more I reload the smaller the velocity band/deviation gets. Too, in order to anneal down to say 9mm, the water lever over the bases needs to be around 5mm. Hochachtungsvoll, Raimey rse
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