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That would be your Specialty Karen, just a quick look at your ongoing feuds with multiple forum members and constant rants proves the point nicely.

All my best princess.
Steve

A discussion of auto-opening doubles is here
https://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=397167&page=all

Miller
"I can't recall that I have ever heard of this being a problem with Smith guns using regular, even max, loads. It has been a problem with some NID's."
Elmer Keith's criticism was mostly of NIDs auto-opening Ted.
https://doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=607225
His famous "We pulled the trigger, the safety went forward, both barrels fired almost together, the gun opened..." was regarding a Fox.

As noted, Buck Hamlin was able to unlock a Smith with overloads, as was Sherman Bell with some of the "Bottom-of-the-barrel-wall-hangers". One of the loads was 3 1/4 Drams or 56 grains of Unique (similar to “Infallible”) with 1 1/4 oz. shot. The chamber burst with the first shot. The 3 1/4 Dram Equivalent load is 24 grains of “Infallible”.

Top rib extensions can fracture. David Trevallion sent me this pic. A 2 3/4" chamber Fox used with 3" boomers.



No hysteria William, nor OCD. I just like to learn. I've seen way too much suffering and dying to get emotional over your lies, hate and insults. And I'm sorry for you. Really. What a miserable way to go through life.

Thank you for the clarification, Drew.

It would seem that guns with the infamous rotary bolt, in all different persuasions, can be susceptible to this inconvenience, if you will. I have no dog in that fight and am just a spectator.

Best,
Ted

For those interested, some cut & paste research from the LCSCA FAQs. I left the formatting as is

In 1921, Charles Askins wrote in The American Shotgun
"It remained for America to have the final word in bolting mechanisms. Lug bolts located on or as part of the barrels were in the wrong place.
The hinge-joint of the barrels acts as a fulcrum of a lever, upon which, the barrels rest and pry at the bolts. It takes three times as much strength in bolts,
to withstand the pressure if they are placed an inch from the joint, as it would should the fastening be accomplished three inches further away.
Alex Brown moved his locking bolts from the lug and placed them in the extension rib, which is undoubtedly the right position for them mechanically.
Throughout the world no other locking devise should be used on a shotgun save the rotary bolt."

Me
The whole world had not taken Askins’ advice at that point in time, but some
form of primary or secondary top fastening system was used by Westley Richards,
Greener, Rigby, and Beesley in England, Merkel and most German-Austrian
makers, the Manufrance Ideal, and in the U.S. by L.C. Smith, D.M Lefever,
William Baker designed Ithaca and later models, Baker and Hollenbeck designed
Baker Gun & Forging guns, Remington 1893 and 1894, and A.H. Fox.


Chapter 15 of Shotgun Technicana by Michael McIntosh and David Trevallion
discusses "Top Fasteners" specifically the Alexander Brown patent, and the
almost identical Ansley Fox patent.
"The most basic principle in fastening any hinge is that the farther the fastener
is from the hinge itself, the greater the mechanical advantage. That’s why door
latches are placed where they are. In a gun, the action bar and breech face
form two sides of a right triangle, so that the top or the breech face is farther from
the hinge pin, in straight-line distance, than the bottom. In a side-by-side gun
there’s an additional advantage in that a top fastener is a bit more efficient in
overcoming the effects of barrel flip-for the gun, if not for the shooter. With a
top fastener, the barrels still flip downward on firing, but the action bar flexes less,
and the fastener keeps the top of the barrels from pulling away from the breech
face."
"The most interesting of the American top fasteners is the L.C. Smith’s patented
by Alexander Brown in 1883. Where all the others used either Greener’s
transverse bolt, some sort of flat bolt or hook on the front end of the top lever,
or both, Brown designed his bolt as a steel cylinder that turns on a horizontal axis.
A slot filed into the cylinder forms the actual hook, which fits into a slot in the rib
extension. The cylinder also engages a lip at the rear of the extension as a
secondary bite. L.C. Smith described this arrangement as a double cross-bolt,
although double rotary bolt would be more accurate."
They also discussed some disadvantages of the rotary bolt, with examples of
actions shot loose with time (and magnum loads), but did agree that "...the top
fastener mechanism…makes excellent sense."

AI (to stay on-topic ) linked this thread here
https://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=645013&page=1

Hahahaha, for someone who claims no OCD, you sure have been busy "obsessively and compulsively" attempting to discredit me.

It's amazing how much info you were able to dredge-up related to self-opening rotary bolts of L.C. Smith's, and other guns... only a day after you claimed you have never seen nor heard of such a thing:


Keep searching, and you will find several other places where Miller did acknowledge the problem some L.C. Smith's had with becoming unbolted upon firing. As a machinist, he understood how two inclined planes in the rotary bolt and the rib extension could slide past each other. Miller made something like 12,000 Posts in his time here.... some of those defending himself from dishonest personal attacks made by you. I learned a lot about you when you did that to a nice guy like Miller. Especially since those attacks were based upon something he was 100% accurate and truthful about the Bible. 100% verifiable, and you know it. He died without ever getting an apology from you.

Of course, you also didn't show us where I even remotely mentioned "guns with top-lever extensions" either. Or why Crescent frames don't crack, yet are worth less than a Flues gun. You didn't mention point No. 9 from Dewey Vicknair's Blog on L.C. Smith flaws either, which I'll bet you've seen before. Nope, for you, it's more about trying to make people think I'm unfairly targeting you.

But for someone who says he isn't OCD, just look at how busy you've been searching and Posting. It's hilarious. And yet again, we get to hear you crying about all of the suffering and dying you've seen, and how sorry you feel for me. I feel so fortunate to have a fraud like you feeling sorry for me.

The only thing missing from your sob story is having you Post another photo of your dead dog, to gin up sympathy. I just don't understand why you'd think I hate you. Why would I hate a phony hypocrite who twists, lies, and hurls personal insults, and then wraps himself with Scripture verses and some sort of ministry in order to act like a holy man???

Pot... meet Kettle! You have some people fooled, but it isn't people I'd be concerned about if I was playing your little game Preacher. We might fool A.I., but we won't fool the Intelligence that created the universe.

Ah Princess Stevie... if you only had a brain, you might have noticed that the OCD Preacher dishonestly responded to a Post I made. And here you are... continuing your ongoing feud with me after telling us only two days ago... for the umpteenth time... that you refuse to engage with me.

Ed asked us to test drive Google A.I. to see if it was accurate. I knew it wouldn't be, and I used an example with a query that was Double Gun related, and thus totally on topic. The result from Google was predictable. I knew text and photos of several cracked Flues guns Posted over and over by the Preacher would come up even before I hit "Enter" for my search. It simply regurgitated false and unfounded assertions that have been posted on the internet about small bore Flues guns by the Preacher and other "Chicken Little's" who would have us believe the Flues has some design flaw that commonly causes frame cracking failures under normal use.

They don't. They are simply a lightweight machine made shotgun that may fail when design limits are exceeded. But the Preacher saw my Post and responded not with an acknowledgment that he was hysterically Posting falsehoods. No, instead he came back to paper over previous statements with more old and obsolete load data and operating pressures... to impress us with his vast copy-and-paste knowledge. And he also Posted another photo of a cracked Flues, without one bit of information as to what led up to the cracked frame. He is no better than the Doctors who got government money by blaming Covid as a cause of death for someone killed in an accident or other unrelated cause. The gun appears to be a 12 ga., not a small bore which is frequently cited as defective. We have no clue what sort of abuse it was subjected to in order to not only crack the frame at the standing breech juncture, but to even crack the area on the water-table where the under-bolt lies. Nothing at all to support his previous unfounded theories. Same old bullshit.

Of course, this was Posted by our Preacher shortly after he had made yet another personal attack on Ed. Our hypocritical man of God likes to pick on Ed. Of course, you wouldn't notice that, because you frequently target Ed as well. But we're not supposed to notice these things, and if we do, we are a Forum killing cancer. Did you know our Preacher keeps a file of statements and photos he can use to target, and attack, and insult Ed?

He can dish it out, but he sure can't take it. And that's something you phonies both have in common.