doublegunshop.com - home Forums General Discussion DoubleGun BBS @ doublegunshop.com what are the opinions of P&V?

P&V is in an entirely different quality sphere than Perazzi.
Messrs. P & V are both former employees of Perazzi.
I personally would put P&V in between Fabbri and Perazzi.
Not quite Fabbri, but better than Perazzi.
Purdey used P&V to build their “Sporter” model in the early 2000’s. Very high quality gun. Best quality in every respect.

I've shot Krieghoffs for over 40 years my father shot Perazzis. They point the same with my style of mount but balance differently. I can shoot both but prefer K guns. Can't go wrong with either. I have a small gauge Caesar Gurini competition gun; I like it but have not owned it long enough to say much more. Go to a big trap shoot with a bunch of dealers. You can usually try different used guns they have on the rack. Good Luck!

I once owned a P&V 20 bore hammer gun. Quality was next to none. I stupidly traded it away.
Only thing is P&V is not widely known here in the US as Perazzi is.

A buddy who has a safe full of side plated Perazzis says the P&V is a better gun in terms of fit and finish. PV uses the same engravers. Real engravers, not computer generated engraving

P&V guns look nice. No question.
The people I know who shot them a lot had barrel and rib issues with few options to replace iirc. I did not dig into it deeply but I don’t think parts interchange with Perazzi nor are they readily available from P&V. I could be wrong or it could have changed.

Great approach.

I've been shooting my AyA 53 at clays for years. It works, but I feel like there's better.

I bought a virtually new Superposed last year, just because I've always like them...and I shoot it better at clays than the AyA. Go figure.

One of the guns I picked up from auctions is a full-on clays gun from Miroku, a model MK-70; it the same gun sold in the US as the Browning 525. I haven't shot it yet, but I really like how it feels.

...then I got the Zoli I mentioned above - and I'm thoroughly impressed. I expected it to be barrel heavy and to just flip it quickly for some easy $$$ (it's brand new in the case) but it's dead neutral, substantial at 8 lbs., 4 oz., but faster handling like I prefer. It's also built like a tank. I couldn't shoot enough clays in the rest of my life to wear this thing out.

I anxious to shoot the MK-70 and the Zoli...I have a couple of opportunities coming up. I'm going to leave all the "usual suspects" at home so I don't drift back to them and see how I do.

TransGomer Joff, it appears you've claimed to have acquired more guns in the last several months than Cabela's.

Let's just say I don't believe you. Of course, creating a false signature line using my name doesn't exactly bolster your credibility.

The words YOU wrote about the NRA can be found in your Post # 675140 posted on 5/23/26- unedited

There are so many minute differences between the various comp gun brands, that when you are breaking it down into the things that impact your score, it starts to feel like you are picking fly shit out of the black pepper.

I’ve been trying to address my grip problem with Beretta’s for 30 years, hope springs eternal, but you have to know when you are whipped.

The Caesar Guerini has some adjustable bits that are just cool technology, and make little things just a little nicer.
I love the adjustable soft comb and barrel weight system.

I shoot a pair of Miroku MK 70 high pheasant, which are just a little bit more dynamic than their Browning multi choke counterpart. Here, as well as over in the UK, and they are great guns. But I don’t want to break one or wear one out when a purpose built target gun can cover all of my clay target bases if I want.

I drive across Northern Wisconsin and then down to Rochester Minnesota pretty regularly. With a little bit of planning, we could meet up and shoot together.

It’s only been 25 or more years. I’m guessing you’re retired from the cardboard business?

I'm around, mostly. We can make something work.

Chasing smallies ans muskies with fur, feathers and hooks ties up some time (and will take up more time as fall gets here), and the last 6 months have been hell with my wife's health issues, but that's pretty well taken care of.

I'm 7 years, 1 month and two days out of the corrugated biz. It was a good thing while it lasted, and treated me well.

I know the guns pretty well. I was at their place on my first trips to Italy. That was when they were an unknown. They are true hand built guns and a step above Perazzi. But that being said like it was brought out, parts and service is a factor. Perazzi parts are easy to find and can be fixed easily. The P & V guns are a cat of a different color. At this time I do not think that anybody will service the guns under warranty, if they have one. Naturally, most issues can be solved with money, just throw enough at the problem.

Now will they hold up under heavy shooting like a Perazzi, who knows.

If you want a gun for heavy shooting go with a P gun or a K gun.

John'
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