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looking at the first picture, it appears that the gun had a couple of wood problems. The wood has a punky look in the light sections(from drying and age) and the area behind the lock and the center of the wrist looks like it may have had some oil damage. It was likely a situation that has building toward one conclusion for decades. Always a danger.

Words escape me for expressing how bad I feel for you Lloyd.

I would never have thought a break this devastating could happen from opening the gun with a sticking firing pin.

The real question is what do you want to do now? The stock can be remade and the distal extension welded and you'll have your gun back.

Might be way cheaper to find a different gun. Lloyd is going to have to indemnify himself on this one.

Best,
Ted

Would anyone like to crowd source a repair of Lloyd’s shotgun?

I think the pictures Show that it was a nice gun before the stock broke. That broken top strap is a concern as well,

I can think of some options that could make this a fun community project.

Maybe like a before and after?

We could start with a donated blank.
Then get it semi inletted or duped.
Weld up and finish the top strap.
Etc
Etc
Volunteers?

If somebody had a bunch of stock blanks, they bought at a defunct gun shop 40 years ago, that they’re not going to get around to using, perhaps they might come up with a blank that looks right, Lloyd might like, and do a good deed? Or, just take some cash for it.
Anybody interested in cleaning out a closet?

I’ve seen people do a whole lot more for far smaller a reason.

The lingering sick feeling this morning is for you and for the sad state your gun is in. It might be worth gathering up the bits and making a trip up the mountain to see Steve. He’s worked similar wonders in the past and at the least you’d have the benefit of his commiseration.

And for the rest of us your sudden and sad experience is a cautionary tale. Too easily we forget that these old doubles are just that: old. And far closer to breakage than we imagine. Very sorry that this reminder came at your expense.

It can be done, I'm thinking that the cost outweighs the gain on this one unfortunately.

Not just from that.
As Lloyd described, repeated (!) rearward gas escape into a confined space, and directly onto the old wood, part dried-out, part maybe a bit oil-soaked. That must have contributed to the final fracas. 🤔🤕😰

Carcano

Thanks folks for all the kind words.

I know there are competent people out there than can resolve this, no doubt. I've obtained and then cleaned-up these older American guns out of pure nostalgia for them. I really don't use them for hunting much anymore but they have been fun to shoot occasionally. I'll get a post-mortem for this gun later this morning from one-such competent person and we'll see where we go from there.

Right now the cost for re-stocking seems a bit prohibitive but we'll see how this develops. I will tell you this however, going forward with any older gun will now be with much more caution about how it's used.

I will also have to re-evaluate more-closely several older guns that I currently possess.

What a remarkably cool idea.