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Carcano, Even if I were 100% wrong, why are you trying to sound like Keith? We don't need another one. Yes. I see the barrel is Sedgley. The action though is a commercial Oberndorf. So, 50% wrong?? Have a nice day. I wouldn’t say 50% wrong, you correctly identified the side rail markings, which is pretty important. There were other things that you missed, but that doesn’t make you wrong.
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It's a restocked Sedgley, and I can't believe it sold for that price. The things I miss. The normal Sedgley discount for a low numbered action wouldn't apply here. My Sedgley was extremely accurate and I miss it every day, I bet this rifle is a ripper. I also wouldn't assume it was stocked in Europe - could easily have been in the US in the 60's or 70's. The floorplate and double set triggers have been available on the market for decades, I remember seeing them when I was a kid. It certainly could be a European restock but I'd want to have more evidence than just the bottom metal. Interesting that it has the long cocking piece - I don't know if all civilian Oberndorf actions had that feature? The nicely rounded barrel band made me think Sedgley right off. And the aftermarket front sight is less common for him but mine had the same, mine was a Lyman, this could be a Redfield, they're very similar. He usually used the simple raised blocky ramp.
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Did anyone take a good look at the front ring? It's not easy to tell from the pictures, but it looks like the ring was scrubbed. On a commercial sporting action, I don't know why that would have been considered necessary.
Tim
Son just where in this picture would you like to be?
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The triggers and bottom metal aren't after market items. They're native to the action.
Bill Ferguson
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The triggers and bottom metal aren't after market items. They're native to the action. Yup, looks to be a pretty standard type B action, triggers and bottom metal.
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I would have expected to see the correct pear shaped bolt knob. ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/fR3rkcjh/Oberndorf-bolt-knob-pear-shaped.jpg) Also agree with Tim that the top of the receiver ring appears scrubbed. The thumb notch in the left rail isn't definitive, but may point toward a military action. In addition, the font of the Waffenfabrik Mauser- Oberndorf stamp doesn't look like other Oberndorf sporters. Note the distinct difference especially in the letters "A", "M", "R", and "K". We certainly know this one has been worked on by someone other than Mauser. And nobody here has it in hand to verify dimensions or other small details. Fake Oberndorf Sporters aren't unknown. Triggers and bottom metal are easy enough to replace, so who knows for sure? But we do know Billy is too blinded by his TDS to see small details, and was 100% wrong about Russia-Russia-Russia and the Mueller investigation. And I'm happy to see I live rent-free in his head. So I'd be interested in hearing more from Carcano concerning his reasons for thinking this gun might not be 100% Kosher. ![[Linked Image from i.postimg.cc]](https://i.postimg.cc/056H2d8H/mauser-receiver-stamp.jpg)
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The BU each under a crown on the front ring is a commercial proof mark, the action itself is a commercial action. I believe the bolt is pear shaped as well but it being polished bright and the poor photography make it hard to be certain.
Good eye Bill and Tim.
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It was very likely a factory Mauser 30-06 sporting rifle these were marked u.s 1906 and aren't to uncommon, They were very poorly received and I think Edward Crossman wrote the article really trashing them for most importantly the bore dimensions being fairly out of wack. I would say because of this he owner sent it out to Sedgley to fit a new barrel, this is a service they offered and there are many examples of rifles just fitted with a sedgley barrel. Pretty cool gun, The sight is an Armstrong also a later addition. Sedgley did catalog a magnum Mauser but I don't think this has any thing to do with that.
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The sight is an Armstrong also a later addition. Sedgley did catalog a magnum Mauser but I don't think this has any thing to do with that. If you have a copy of Nick Strobel's book "Old Gunsights", you can see that the sight is a Redfield 100-M, production began in the late 1920's and ended in 1952.
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yeah looks like it is 100-m, would still say its much later replacement to original.
Is there anything else of note? its a decent project but I don't see anything to unusual?
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