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Now it could be that the ID diameter is in mm instead of cm so it might be 181mm or 182mm, etc.

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Raimey
rse

Here's one of Dogs and Doubles site:

http://www.dogsanddoubles.com/2013/04/good-gun-alert-an-awesome-16-gauge-j-p-sauer-hammergun/


CAL: 170 D BERN
CAL; 168 D BERN

Not sure if the D BERN is a higher grade pattern welded tube that the S BERN.

DD: do you have a more in-focus image?

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

And then there's CAL:182 S BAND - have not idea for now.

http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbt...e6172d7d6ab57c4

Has my ship run around & I'm all alone?

Kind Regards,

Raimey
rse

Another Sauer with unique 4 number kalibre being >>1681<< and >>1710<< along with the letters >>SE<< all which were applied by Liége mechanics and the reset of that German Chicken Scratching are Sauer internal Process marks including the Large & Small Crowns.

Skimmin' thru several threads, I see:


S Band
S Bern
D Bern
SE - which I think to be S. Étoile....

RDAM....

Typically one sees rough tube diameters applied by Liége mechanics but this specific Sauer has 4 digits.

Hause & I have been discussing such, but since the numbers are sometimes so close, like 181, 182, I hold that the number is for each individual tube, but again I do not know what the reason was for 4 numbers???

https://www.doublegunshop.com/forum...mp;Words=bern&Search=true#Post324947

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Raimey
rse

Band-Damast-Läufe
Bernard-Damast
Crollè Damastläufen
Garibaldi-Damast
Hufnagel-Damast Läufen(„fer de clous“)

https://www.doublegunshop.com/forum...ords=hufnagel&Search=true#Post548912

I don't think the German Names apply, but what do I know???


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Raimey
rse

More names here
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IHGMMB82PAgFIzHTeoepYvzzE1uqDZSC_MTWH8vv0fE/edit?tab=t.0

No idea as to Ferlacher Gedreht (turned) and Halbgedreht (half-turned), Ferlacher Austria 2, and I don't believe I've ever seen a Garibaldi pattern Maybe Giusppe Garibaldi?

Interesting point there Hause & maybe Sauer was sourcing from Austria/Ferlach & that's the reason for »Cal«¿¿. Those Austro Hungarian mechanics fancied the term Cal.....

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

Appears my Griffon de Korthals was barking up the wrong pattern welded tube Tree¿

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

Yeah, ole Giuseppe Maria Garibaldi may have scrubbed a few off before he passed or maybe some mechanic may have wanted to throw a little fame his way & name a pattern welded tube after Giuseppe Maria Garibaldi¿

Adds a little Italian flair¿

Serbus,

Raimey
rse

So maybe >>RDAMAS<< is Damas Rosen??


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Raimey
rse