eight---actually I never see any charts that recommend 9's for birds, not in the quite a few years and not for grouse which was the thread topic and I'm not recommending 9's or 10's either for grouse, I'm merely trying to say that my experience is very fast, higher charged loads and "smaller pellets" does seem to have good results but certainly NOT just smaller pellets.

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