doublegunshop.com - home Forums General Discussion DoubleGun BBS @ doublegunshop.com Question of Balance.

It has Happened!!!!My piece of Geoffrey Boothroyd Real English String that I have been 'Hanging' Guns & Rifles in for the last 15 yrs, from the overhead hot-water pipe in my Workshop,(AKA,The Museum of Perpetual Mess"...went and Broke')The 2 yr old James Purdey & Sons 28b O/U that I was measuring the "Point of Balance" for this Discussion that has been'Percolating' on this DG/Shop for several wks.The Gun was on its way to the'Deck"(NON BOUNCE 50yr old Concrete)Usually my Old English Springer,Wellington' would be in his well padded basket underneath, but he recently 'Passed on to theFields & Covers where he can run to his Old hearts content.The 'Absolutely Pristeen Condition" Purdey O/U. Didnot reach Ground Zero!! My Beloved Significant Other' Eileen, who has been'Racheting in my Ear for months,Why dont you make a Proper Noose'with 13 Knots.because that 'Crappy bit of Scottish String is ready to break!!She just happened to be doing a 'Tea run"....and managed to catch the (Aprox Replacement Cost $130,000.00)'Little Bugger as it was "Falling Earthwards"....So no damage done,let the customer know the cost of a new piece of Scottish'Hemp" will be charged to his account.....Just joking!!So my question is to the 'Person who has planted the 'Seed' into several of my Clients Minds..I dont understand how a gun can be balanced "At the Trigger"? Its set to the rear of the"Cross-Pin" (British Gunmakers Term) "Hinge-Pin"(Others)I would like be able to explain to my Client,(Who I have just Re-Stocked/Re-Barreled his Pair of Boss 12b c 1880,Perks Pat.Side-Locks)why I willnot change the"Point of Balance" just because "A poster on Double GunShop has a Theory"!!In Anticipation of a Reply....CC/dt

hOW CAN i DELETE THIS SECOND POST????????i THINK i JUST HAD A sENIOR MOMENT!!!!!!hEY dAVE wEBER...MY WORLD IS FALLING........CC/DT

Congrats on having the foresight to hang about with a quick of hand and excellent eye/hand coordinated woman.

Does she shoot? Does she shoot better than you?

Is she Irish? Just kidding.

Tell your customers to buy something cheaper for their kockamamy experiments, something quaint and American, like an LC Smith or a Stevens 311. Add lead, duct tape, rocks, etc. until they are or seem content that whoever built the first (English) example, knew what they were doing.

If that doesn't do the trick, take their money.
Best,
Ted

Would rather hope she might be of good Scott blood, can she pipe? Those Irish, well, you know!!!! LOL. Perhaps beginning each morning with a wee chorus of "Scotland The Brave" tooted on a fine set of war pipes might get the neighbors up and moving.

Ted. Strange you should mention the "Irish"..The Memsab's Grand-Father came over from Galway Bay, went on to be Chief of Police in Boston, the King family.One of my Fav' tapes is of the "Scots Guards" Pipes & Drums, We play it each evening at Sundown when we lower the"Standard". The Mater's Father was a Drum Major with that Regiment. My old friend'Scribe' McIntosh',once did a'Slow Strip' in a Pub we were in Glasgow,a Bonnie Wee Lass' of'3 Score& 8yrs was playing her 'Pipes'!!!!!It was'nt pretty! cc/dt

Thanks for painting THAT picture in my brain. I may be seared for life....
Best,
Ted

I'd like it known that not ALL members of the KING clan claim Irish blood, thank you. Many of us are justly proud of our good Scott heritage. My family admittedly does have a bit of English (I am something like 14th cousin to the current Queen, I would have you know) and a touch of German, (actually like a bunch of Brits do) but we'll deny being bloddy Irish!!! Wish I had a relative who could pipe me a good chorus of something from your Scotts Guards tape. I could put on kilts and strut around like Monty marching before his troops. No, on second thought I wouldn't, that was not a pretty sight.

Chief,
Dear oh dear. The Scots were Irish, they hailed from Ireland originally, the tribe was the Scotii. Beaten out of here, most probably for being contrary. Where do you think they got their language, pipes and drink?
In Latin, the suffix "Scotus" (and/or Erigena) designated the Irish roots of the person, as in Johannes Scotus Erigena, the Ninth century philosopher. St. Clement Scotus is another, born in Ireland, hence Scotus.

The King family is not truly Irish, as most of them – at least those in the West – usually trace their roots to a bunch of shady Elizabethan Planters who settled in Galway c1600. Best keep quiet about THEM!

“Some” German blood? A bit more than you think, if you are a 14th cuz to the Queen, as she is more German than anything else and her early Georges ancestors barely spoke English. The House of “Windsor” is a WW1 creation to avoid the anti-kraut sentiment. As for strutting about like Monty in a kilt, well, his family is also Irish, from Donegal, though because daddy was a priest in London he was born there.

However, the Kings were closely linked to the Connaught Rangers, rather better than the Scots Guards in many an estimation. Apart from several VCs, making famous the song “It’s a long Way to Tipperary”, they also rebelled in India (1921) when they heard of the disgusting behaviour of the Black & Tans back in Ireland.
Hoping more woodcock leave Scotland and arrive in our shores soon!
K.

I am quite aware of all that you say, and would not dispute it if I could. There is that old original question, however, of whether the Scots came from Ireland or the Irish from Scotland. Neither you nor I will settle that here. I much prefer Scot pipes to the often puny little Irish "sit-down" pipes, however. The King family research I uncovered led more to Continental Europe originally, Germany, and then Scotland. Not much in this study about any Planters from Galway. Do doubt there were branches hither and yon.

I know the history of the House of Windsor. The family heritage is important enough to me to have studied it. Yea, Cuz The Queen sits on a throne which politically intertwined Germans and Brits long ago into the House of Windsor, a mutual protection society. I appreciate your input and reminders. I have no problem at all with my German blood. I detest the Nazi movement, as most good Germans did and still do, but not the German heritage. Recent anti-Kraut sentiment, I am in agreement. Recent Irish (also not so very recent, going back to the settling of the NorthEastern US) also stirs a lot of anti-Irish sentiment as well, and that's what I was referring to. We may all have a black sheep or three in the background, that doesn't say we brag on them. I'll have to check more into the Connaught Rangers. I'll still talk more about my Scot side, then English, then German, than any Irish side, although I know it's there. I guess everyone has a proverbial, er "stranger" in the woodpile.

Like many on this side of the water, I cared little for Monty. Eisenhower and Bradley did a good job of keeping his ego and Patton's from clashing too often. I am sure you are aware there is still a rather large "underground" cult that keeps alive the notion that Monty had Patton killed after the war in retaliation for Patton beating him to many of the "prizes" he had so wanted. I suppose that also will never be proved nor dis-proved. Little matter now.

Thanks for the history input.

Thanks Chief,
Interesting take, let's agree to disagree. As for strangers in your woodpile, another great kilted Scotsman, George Bernard Shaw once said “If you can't get rid of the skeleton in your closet, you'd best teach it to dance.”
There is a venerable gentleman in Galway, Bill King, former Commander, submarines, round the world sailor, crack shot, etc. You may know about him already, if not http://9livesproductions.com/ His book is well worth a read, The Stick and the Stars.
K.