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What no RBL...and no Galazan's o/u?
I'd take Tony White's ble gun over half that made the list.
There are a few new makers who didn't make the cut-off - I might give them a buzz first.
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Good articles. Much historical and technical information in a small space. Some bias and opinion of course, but that's the author's right. That's why writers write.
Interesting the high praise for the Beretta 680 series guns. After all the years they have been available, nobody has really improved that masterpiece.
Some of us have had the same opinion as the author for 25 years now about the 680 design. Bet I've helped sell a few dozen of them...
Perfect gun? Right now it's a Browning XS 20ga with 30" barrels. Best dynamics I've ever found in a gun that I can afford to own. There may be better guns, but I'll never get to pull the trigger on one. Face it, economics is part of the equation for 99% of us.
"The price of good shotgunnery is constant practice" - Fred Kimble
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No Rizzini R-2 or R-1?????????
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No G. Granger. No Hartmann and Weiss. No mention of Galazan, noted already, but, deplorable, all the same.
Glad I didn't make that list.
Best,
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Not a word about K-guns and their overpriced Remington 32 either.
"The price of good shotgunnery is constant practice" - Fred Kimble
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I haven't read the list---but will---and can only say that there isn't another gun I'd prefer over those modest doubles I use now: Fox, Parker, Elsie, Francotte, Sauer, Army and Navy, SKB circa 1889-1970. By any exegis of technical sophistication, doesn't that make me one of the happiest and richest gunners in the world?
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That's what makes this stuff fun, KB. You've found your 'best'. I like the article because the guy thinks like I do, which is rare. Most of us don't have enough pound notes or euros or shillings or whatever to buy the hand made stuff at the top of the list, but we can shoot as well and have most of the same experience with some really well made production guns.
"The price of good shotgunnery is constant practice" - Fred Kimble
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Not surpreising being that these are guns both popular in GB and have sold well over the years.
I subscribed to a couple of Brit Sporting publications for a few years and finally realised that thier history, hunting and culture were so different from ours that thier choice of shotuns and how they are configured should not be a 'Holy Grail'.-Dick
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OWD, great articles and great magazine. (My ADD took me to the recipe for pheasant, :-))
A pity subscriptions are so expensive (at least for me).
JC
"...it is always advisable to perceive clearly our ignorance."ť Charles Darwin
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