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I could've swore Oz's were marked...maybe we'll get to see it again.

I'm still puzzled as to why the pictures were removed.


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Joe 1 1/4 oz,..Maximum, will post better pics soon




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Don't worry, CJ, case colors are original on this gun, but you need to re-blue these screw heads, they look like replacement.
Congrat upon your new buy


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That's interesting: shot charge AND "maximum". Wonder if that's because it's heavier than the standard 1 1/8.

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That would more than likely make it a 2 & 3/4" gun...that in my opinion would increase the value.

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Original 70mm chambers on in proof English gun NEVER decrease it's value. In fact, they enhance it's value very much. Lots of folks like Winchester Extra Light Target loads some Walmarts sell! I assume nobody is stupid enough to buy shells at $ander $ountain!

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Jagermeister:
Do you happen the know the pressure levels for these Winchester Light Target loads? They are potentially just the ticket for my older doubles as I don't reload shotgun shells.
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Sorry for being late to the party but where are the pics of the gun????????. I have a Monte Carlo B SLE pigeon gun circa 1909 that
is my favourite sporting clays gun. Great firearm!! Good luck with yours. Please re-post pics if you can. Cheers.


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Oops, I meant Extra Light Target Loads (Walmart in Mechanicsville even had some of those puny subsonic ones with pic of feather on front of the box). The ones with slivery feather on front of the box are a bit too wimpy for my taste. Look, I shot 4 boxes of WELTLs out of my Remi 31 with AL frame (it's marked 12GA for 2&3/4 shells or shorter) that unlike 870 does not lock into steel barrel extension. There was no damage and I'm happy to report no fillings fell out of my jaw.
I don't know what avg. gp is, but I'm sure it's well below ceiling value of 650bar allowed for std. Euro 70mm field loads.
On the other hand some of those 65mm 'Super Duper' 1300+fps English game loads will kick the snot out of you, and they aren't likely to be of lower pressure than WELTLs.

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HL - The range I'd see for it if restored would be BV3-OQ3-CC4 = $4100 down to BV3-OQ4-CC5 = $2400. The OQ grade would depend on how much you ding the lack of ejectors. The CC level would depend on whether you deemed the restoration very, very good and were willing to pay a bit more for that level of work. The issue for restoration is always and forever, "What was it like before restoration/why did it need restoring?" Remaining finish gives us strong clues as to the use and care a gun has had. It gets much harder/more uncertain to "place" the gun when the condition clues are gone. And that ususally shows up as a price ding.

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