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Why is it that the value of most guns is killed by a rebarrel even if it is a well done job?
It depends. The British view new modern barrels by the maker on an older gun as adding value to it. Likewise refinishing, as long as it is done to the quality standards of the original maker. The Colt/Winchester psychosis prevalent here, which really doesn't apply to British guns, makes that a hard sell in the US. +1
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Boss re-barrelled a lot of their guns with dovetail barrels. I have seen it done on guns by most London makers except Purdey. Some were dovetailed befor chopper lumping became the norm (like steel barrelled Holland & Holland dated 1893 I have.
I would expect to see perhaps a 10% price differential if the seller will ware it. Many will not because they can sell to someone who doen not know or care what chopper lump barrels are - they just see a nice gun with new barrels by the maker.
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You "just a shooter!"  That is funny. You have shown enough of your guns to have identified yourself as someone who cares about the gun itself and not just its utility. Sorry, you have some Collector blood in you somewhere!!
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Rocketman...If I'm going to shoot hammer guns that are 100 years old...I'm not going to shoot junk...I've already been that route.
Take my Purdey 10 hammer gun as an example the barrels were sleeved and Nitro proofed..sometime after 1950.
I looked at it as a superior shooter more so now than if the barrels were original and untouched (if it was I couldn't afford it anyway).
If I was a collector of guns I would've turned my nose up at it like Lowell repeatedly has....
I'm a collector...a collector of animals I can shoot with it...I can't help I have English best taste on a Sterlingworth budget.
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After reading all this I've decided that if I ever get the hots for a London Best it would have to be in "as new" condition ..... with all the bells etc and irrefutable provenance. It will go in the safe for investment and only come out for cleaning and livingroom show. Otherwise, a low price wall hanger / project gun, something to take apart and fiddle with.
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Yes you could j0e, its those real high condition original Purdey Extra Finish self openers that seperates the men from the boys!
...and if I would start collecting - it would be American guns, thats where the fun is!
Last edited by Lowell Glenthorne; 01/10/08 07:03 PM.
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Now jOe, you know full well that you didn't buy that Purdey only because it is a good shooter. You also bought it because it is beautiful. And, why the Scott if not also beause it is beautiful. Shooter and Collector are not absolutes. There is a continum between these two polar inclinations. You may be more shooter than collector, but you also spend money on guns just because you find them desirable to own. LG, too! You all own guns that are a long way from pure utility.
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No matter how patriotic I've become with American field grades/utility guns, there is nothing on this planet that can compare with a fine English gun.
They are made for the field!
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