I think there is room for a third position in KY Jon's discussion. I too like some of the older guns for their shooting qualities, but certainly don't want to pay collector quality prices for a gun collectors can enjoy. On the other hand, as much as I hunt with my guns I seem to have a knack for not signicantly beating them up just by hunting with them. So a properly restored gun, bought at an appropriate price suits me because I just don't like carrying around something ugly several others have already mistreated. So I have a Parker 20g VHE O frame that looks about like it did when it left the Remington factory 67 years ago - after hunting,skeet and clays since I acquired it in 1984.