We absolutely must police our own ranks. A few bad apples spoil the whole barrel and unfortunately, we have more than just a few. Let's not lie to ourselves, we have all witnessed this with shame in our hearts but most of us haven't stepped foeward and confronted those callous slobs. Well, they're dragging us all down. We all will answer for their behavior - witness more and more posted land year upon year. You don't think the landowner has due cause? You think the landowner is being unfair? What did we ever do to bring this about? We did nothing and continue to do nothing . . . about the slobs among us!! Report them to the athorities, report them to the landowner, confront them, shame them, but while you do, teach them, show them what they are doing to all of us. This is not a "holier than thou" attitude; this is not class distinction; THIS IS SELF-PRESERVATION and tell them THAT too. And, just as importantly, be a mentor. Get kids involved, girls too. Your wife or daughter, your neice or girlfriend or a co-worker. Get kids outdoors away from the TV or gameboy or whatever it is that is polluting their minds. We need more responsible outdoorspeople now more than ever if we are to survive.