I'm surprised to find I'm actually enjoying this conversation.

So, let me get this straight. Lining up to cash social security checks, using public roads, schools, and all the other benefits of a liberal society is ok, but having our government, that we give our lives and treasure for, help us with staying healthy and productive members of society is bad? I'm impressed with Steve's moral fortitude in his above referenced health struggle (and God bless you Steve, for pulling through and being here - we're glad you made it!), but would it have been so awful if he didn't have to mortgage his house and max out his credit cards just so he can have medical care?

I don't have health insurance either, being partially self employed as I am. The penalty for that is not having health insurance. Could I afford a catastrophic policy with a $10k deductible to mitigate against disasters described above? Yes, if I go without some other basic necessities of life. But even that is no guarantee, because the way it is set up now, health care providers stay in business by denying coverage. I've seen people with $600/mo health insurance still have to pay $100k for cancer care.

I just think it's a very warped sense of priorities when we can spend literally trillions on a war that has resulted in the deaths of upwards of a million people, but helping our own people is somehow evil and marxist. What the @#$@~~!! is that?

Last edited by marklart; 02/19/08 09:24 PM.
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