Originally Posted By: Virginian
What about the "poor"? I don't care. It's called natural selection.

Well, Virginian, at least you're honest about it. Many here would agree with you, but don't have the cojones to admit it.

Anecdotes are meaningless. My son-in-law was brought into an ER with a smashed elbow and painful wrist. Despite his request, the ER people said the wrist was just a sprain and didn't need an X-ray. It was a weekend accident, and he had to wait three days before they could find a surgeon to work on his elbow (multiple pins and plates needed).

A month after the accident, his wrist was still swollen and painful. He went back to the ER, where an X-ray showed it to be broken and half-mended wrong. They had to re-break his wrist and reconstruct it.

So bad things happen. Everywhere. And anyone can come up with anecdotes about health care failures. Everywhere. But it is well documented that OECD countries with universal health care cover more of their people, at less cost, and achieve better outcomes, than America does.

You can't deny the facts. You can only close your eyes to them.

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