I collect 10ga Elsies.It is strange but over the last two years, four 10ga Ideals have come up for sale 3 Damascus 1 Steel. Out of 153 guns thats an amazing number. 1223 post-1913 field grade 10ga guns were made, I have not seen even one for sale in the last four or five years. You would think a few more of the field grade guns would show up on the market. That's collecting. Here is a picture of my 10ga Ideal and 10ga Pigeon.