I have picked up one each of two different shells for a collection and am not familiar with either one. If anyone can shed some light on them, I would appreciate it.

1. paper hull, high brass, reads on the brass: "Western SuperX No. 8 Industrial"

2. Aluminum, reads "WCC 55, 410 M35"

I know they are 8 gauge and 410 gauge, but have never seen one like either of these. George