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drifting a little off topic but since these were touched on (global warming and mentoring the young), i've tried pointing out the fallacies of global warming to my high school age daughter for several years now but i'm an idiot and her teachers are geniuses. just last week a P-38 Lightning landed here on its way somewhere, having been resurrected off greenland under 268 FEET of ice in the early '90's. tried to get her to ask her genius teachers to explain how global warming could dump an fresh 268 feet of ice on greenland in just 4 decades but she wouldn't do it.

as to mentoring, see the above paragraph: it's darned difficult to mentor a generation that doesn't want it. you can't beat this stuff into them with a stick tho in some cases i'd love to try. i'm sure many would be receptive but most of that generation are a result of the social climate they've grown up in. parents don't have near the influence they had when kids were raised on farms, the way the founding fathers intended.

we have a culture now that thinks the mighy oprah and the broads on the view are paragons of intelligence. and we're doomed.

roger

To Jim Legg; yes I am an Endowment Life NRA member, and I regularly donate to NRA-ILA since I no longer pay annual dues. I do put my money where my mouth is. To Dick Jones; yes I regularly contact my legislators and let them know that my continued support is contingent upon their positions on issues like gun control, lead bans, hunting, global warming, taxes, etc. To FNB25; I don't think were too far off topic going from lead bans to global warming. It's all part of the same slow, patient, and sneaky agenda to gradually separate us from our Constitutional rights. The Bastards behind it are more concerned with the rights of non-citizen terrorist suspects and non-citizen illegal aliens. Yes, our kids are being indoctrinated in the schools, and yes it is a tiring and uphill battle, but giving up will only accelerate the slide and will certainly never reverse it. I can understand the feelings of those who say "why fight, it's a done deal", but I can never respect them. After I snowblow the global warming off the drive, I am going to start a new thread that may surprise some of our younger members. It's about how I used to bring a gun to school. Check it out. Keith

Easy - just get a good PR person who'd build a case for lead. Like, finance alternative studies, point to greater threats, press on negative aspects of non-tox. That's exactly why the need for a wealthy organisation involvment - to foot the bill.

My ox is being gored in this thread. This was one of the first BBS's I began visiting over a decade ago. At the time I was just beginning to regularly shoot collectible shotguns. Previous interests had been handguns, target rifles, etc...

With time being very limited with small children at home I have slowly been drifting away from this site and spending more time on AR15.com.

I have only purchased one shotgun in the last year but have picked up six AR15's. I have put over 5000 rounds downrange with these rifles.

Yet some who would recognize my user name as a long time contributor to this board would toss my black guns out with the bathwater. Interestingly enough, in the past year I have introduced four non-shooters to the sport. All are now shooting AR15's somewhat regularly. I have taken the same folks to the shotgun range with little success. Just not their thing.

Hang together or you'll hang us separately.

Strange how the battle plan suggested seems to be to demand that the problems involved with lead be ignored or shouted down, regardless of whether they are realistic or not.

Anyone here really care about right and wrong or is this all about your personal political agenda?

Today's waterfowler would have been harder to railroad into a lead ban. Back in the 90s, duck hunting was a good ol'boy's thing and they bought the farm. Easy prey for the Al Gore's of the day.
Btw, I would go to the wall for a AR15er, but most Americans see the double barrel shotgun as part of their heritage and history.
Prolly not so with the black guns tho'.

Why the same as you BrentD..."personal political agenda."
Yours do seem a little on the hippie commune side tho'.
Let me guess, Iowa City?

Brent makes a valid point about the integrity of the science. Like it or not, the lead ban proponents won in the court of public opinion. China's lead paint became a world-wide cause celebre. To change things there must be more than noise. Diehards are often fifth columns in effective activist organizations.

A written rule in two natural resource and environmental organizations I belonged to: never ask the executive to do anything that will embarras the organization. My guess is that's why NRA is not leading the charge on lead. (There was nothing hippie about the organizations, Lowell. The hippies were the problem.)

And the pendulum swings...What goes around come around...When the stuff hits the fan, as it surely will soon, the politicians will be coming to us for advice or be gone.

griz, are you referring to the recession cutting that deep? That they'll be looking to rural America for food?