Steve , I've contacted Carol asking for their mailing list - not trying to reinventing - just joining in with them . GunnermanBks@att.net is their email address , and I've never understood why the GLSSA doesn't hit the web sites or what ever to advertize their shoots . Anyways , it looks like I got a good enough response to go ahead and ask my club to put a couple on their calender . Let everyone know when we'll do it . Thanks - Paul