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Also: During the late 50's I was a member of the Stuyvesant HS rifle team, called The Nimrods. Twice a week I brought my Rem bolt action 22 on the NY subway to school (cased) . My locker wasn't big enough to stash it so many times I carried it around all day until we went to the range after school. Times were different then.

Al

Yea. I think Michael Savage could be part of what is driving the loonyness in this Country. No doubt about it. Jake

There is hope. In Bath County Virginia the public schools still get off the first day of firearms (deer) season. And yes, the kids take their guns to school, but keep them locked in their car/truck. This could change as soon as the Northern Virginia crowd starts to move in, but hopefully this is far into the future. The handwringers in this country do a good job of keeping everyone whipped up in a fearful frenzy, and there are plenty from both parties. There is no better way to teach a kid responsiblity than teach him/her gun safety and how to shoot.

And no, I don't think Michael Savage is part of the problem.

Read this today,
"Obama (then a state senator) proposed enactment of a federal law prohibiting licensed gun dealers from operating within five miles of a school or park. Of course, considering the geography of most cities and towns, banning a lawful business operation within a five-mile radius of a school or park would very often amount to an outright ban on those businesses"

Then;

"On a Senate bill to prohibit sex-related shops to operate within a five-mile radius of schools or houses of worship (which failed), Obama took a pass, and voted “present.”

The Obama spin: He was trying to avoid mandates on local authorities!"

http://www.nraila.org/Legislation/Federal/Read.aspx?id=3648

More "change" is comming I suspect unless we tighten the ranks and get more gunowners to vote against this guy we will be handing them in before we know it.

While you guys seem to find lots to bemoan, and some of it justifed, not all is quite so gloomy. College and high school trap and skeet teams are springing up all over and going great guns (to pun a phrase). I think we have well over 100 student members on our ISU club. There are also rifle and pistol clubs and quite a bit of competition. A local gal actually chose to attend ISU on the strength of its trap and skeet team. She is now an officer in the local Izaak Waltons gun range.

I saw recently that one of my old alma maters MSU (M as in Michigan), just built some sort of multimillion dollar shooting facility and are bragging that their's is the best collegiant shooting venue in the nation.

The local car dealer in town is coaching a high school team and they can fill up the range on practice nights without a problem. They travel around the state in competitions, and I'm told that new teams are springing faster than they can keep track of them.

The bottom line is that there seems to be a lot of interest in shooting sports and quite a few opportunities to expand them.

Brent

People today are afraid of guns in schools. My teachers cringed at seeing me with just a pencil or any sharp implement in my hand.........Denny Crane

FWIW, IN 1970 I got a science teaching job in Wolverine,Mi. Small community, 109 kids, K-12. Few if any went on to college, so why physics, etc? So, I developed an Outdoor Education program that encompassed all the recreation activities of the north and taught them how to do it properly, lawfully, and safely. On the shooting end, we had the DCM stuff, about a dozen Win target 22 rifles, talked with Remington and they loaned us about 1/2 doz shotguns, in 12 and 20. 870's, 1100's and a 3200!!! yes a 3200. We reloaded ammo on 2 Mec reloaders. There was an 80 acre school forest about 3 miles from school and its there we developed a trap range and small bore range. Prior to the kids shooting the shotguns, they all went through the DAisy Quick Skill program. We had 3 Daisy's with no sights. Girls were the best in acquiring the shooting skill, cause they listened. After mastering the dot on the cardboard box they graduated to shooting marshmellows out of the air. Did our shooting on the baseball field. There were girls and guys who could shoot 8 out of 10 tossed marshmellows. We challenged other schools to a trap shoot at our forest. We mopped up. I can see it now, the office storeroom was converted to our store room. Guns in the rack, 2 kids reloading during study hall. In the storeroom was 2 chainsaws we used to clear wildlife habitat improvement projects we bid on from the DNR. During the second week of deer season, we'd take the kids deer hunting during the day. Organized deer drives. Parents would come along to help. Kids would get off the bus in the morning with their Win 94's,Savage 340's and whatever handmedown deerslayer was available. All the guns in a case and the kids dressed in their red plaid or orange jackets. During the deer season, the DNR would bring violated deer and elk to us to cut up for the lunch program. Nothing to see a couple deer and an elk hanging from the rafters of the science room waiting for class to begin to start butchering and grind up all for chili or burger. To earn money for supplies, we would sell raffle tickets at home basketball games and have the drawing the last home game before Christmas. Prizes were usually a Win 94 rifle, an 870 shotgun, and some accessory stuff like snowshoes , fishing poles, knives and anything else we could gather up. State Police would come to school forest and give handgun demonstration with all students shooting 22, 38 and one shot with my 4" SW 29. Wintertime, we would commandeer the sewing machines from the home ec. dept and kids would sew FrostLine kits.(remember them) (Down jackets and vests) down floated the hallways for weeks. First week in January was survival training with firebuilding, shelter building etc. Test was 3 days,2 nites in the Pigeon River forest with nothing but a candy bar, some jerky, knife,tea bags, a tin can, 4 matches, handsaw, home made snares( DNR gave us permission)and sleeping bag. Rarely temps at night reached above 0 degrees. Porcupines really took a hit, easy catch. Spring was canoeing, mushroom picking, rappelling and camping. Rapelling off the gym roof and graduate to going off the I-75 interstate overpasses. That stops the traffic. Ever hear the ruckus made by 15 boys and girls when a black bear runs for its life through these young mushroom pickers. A three day canoe trip down the Black River till it flowed into the Straits of Mackinac. All the fun and frolic and tipped canoes came to a halt when we went over the Kleeber dam and onto the sturgeon spanning grounds. Looking down on a 6 foot sturgeon stopped all the silliness. I run into some of these kids now and then and we immediately talk outdoor education tales. The stories have become legends now. Sorry for all the random thoughts and comments, Went down memory lane and couldn't stop it. Program lasted till 1979 when the school couldn't afford one full time science teacher(took my place) and the guy who spent all day playing with the kids at the school forest. I left with all the memories. Never in my life during those days did I feel a kid would break my trust and take,damage or do injury to anyone with the OE equipment. Where did it all make the wrong turn. Randy

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/08/us/08h...Z+U56Fxi+4XD2pQ

Another link to the NYT article...

Randall, In regards to your tag line....My brother Glen, has a 20ga. Francotte, might be interested in selling. (mccune@freeway.net) Randall

Its not all bad news guys. I am 20 and graduated from HS 2 years ago. I never brought a gun to school, but I did hunt Turkey hunt before school with the head custodian, a very good friend of mine.
A lot of kids that know I hunt are interested in it, but have no connection or mentor. It is easy to complain, but harder to act. There have been declines and setbacks, but everyone can do something to encourage the longevity of this pasttime.