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People today are afraid of guns in schools. My teachers cringed at seeing me with just a pencil or any sharp implement in my hand.........Denny Crane Maybe it was you, not the pencil?  Frankly, I've never seen a teach cringe at a student because of a pencil, and I rather doubt anyone else has either.
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From the posts so far, it seems there's a yearning for simpler times and encouraging notes that shooting sports are alive and well where people want them. To a watchful and admiring neighbour, the United States is a far better country, unfettered from the old bogeymen of race, gender and ageism (Obama, Clinton and McCain as presidential aspirtants). Appeals to race are no longer tolerated. That's something worth celebrating and emulating---everywhere. Don't be too hard on yourselves; the US isn't going to hell!
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I went to an all boys Grammar School in the middle of Manhattan, yes Manhattan!, in the late 50's and we had a 22 rifle range in the basement. As a sport, it was warmer and much less muddy than soccer (to say nothing of not being ground into the field by bigger kids) so began a lifetime of shooting and hunting, much travel, many interesting friends and some considerable expense. I often wonder if the range is still there and if one's father could drive one to the door and hand one one's rifle. Any bets?
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I'm glad I was able to dredge up some nice memories. I fully realize that time marches on and I would not wish to go back to the pre-antibiotic days of my grandfather just to be able to take a gun to school. I was simply pointing out that there is an insidious movement to demonize guns and hunting while (intentionally?) ignoring the root causes of school violence. I would imagine there were isolated incidents of students threatening teachers a hundred years ago. But it seems that kids who are involved responsibly in the shooting sports are better academically and less apt to get in trouble. I also live in Pennsylvania and know all about the first day of deer season being a holiday, but I also know the level of participation is slipping every year. It seems fewer kids are willing to sit in the cold from 0-dark-thirty to dark-thirty when they could be sitting in front of the computer playing games. No doubt some of that is due to the precipitous decline in deer numbers thanks to an out of control Pennsylvania Game Commission. I sometimes wonder if that isn't backdoor gun control by our anti-gun Gov., Ed Rendell... i.e., slowly kill the hunting culture in Pa. to make it easier to enact gun control laws, but that's another topic. I also agree that the shooting sports are still alive and well and know that the NRA boasts five times the membership that it did in those good old days I talked about. However, I would submit that part of that is due to a higher percentage of gun owners finally taking the threat of loss of Second Amendment rights seriously. Time was we could keep the gun grabbers largely at bay by having a majority of gun owner support in the House or Senate even if we had to weather an anti-gun President. Now we are at a point where it seems a Hillary or Obama can sign on to a U.N. Global gun ban and were suddenly criminals and our investment in our hobby or passion becomes worthless or contraband. It all becomes easier if we demonize the guns and indoctrinate our kids. Anyone here recall Bill Clinton's speech in New York the day after the Murrah Federal Building was bombed? He used that as an excuse to call for tighter gun laws. Now what kind of gun took down that building...must've been one of them Ultra Mags?? Anyway, I hope the debate spreads beyond this thread since preaching to the choir won't do much. It's been great to be able to air this out while we still have the right. Keith
Voting for anti-gun Democrats is dumber than giving treats to a dog that shits on a Persian Rug
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Always looking for small bore Francotte SxS shotguns.
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"It's been great to be able to air this out while we still have the right." Sad but true that the only absolute guarantee of the right of free speech is the right to keep and bear arms. And remember, these rights weren't given to the people by the government but, conversely were written into the constitution by citizens, not subjects, because of what government had done to them. I, too, have taken my shotgun to school. 1960, '61, '62 and '63. First time was for show and tell "Your Hobby." And from then on I would take it because I would hunt pheasants in the afternoon with a friend a couple of miles from home. People would come out of their houses or stop their cars just to talk to me and congratulate me about the pheasants I had. I only wish for the youth of today that it could still be the same.
I think that for some kids to have experienced the awesome responsibility of the taking of the life of legal game some heinous crimes against humanity might have been avoided.
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Randall, PM's don't work on my end, sending or receiving.Only e-mail works raven@freeway.net Randy
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Yes, one of my Shop Projects was a gun Rack for my Room at home and still have it. We kept guns in our cars during hunting season and if we had a Gun to trade we kept it in our locker to trade during lunch in front of the school. We played "splits" with our picket knives too. In college I kept my .22 Model 62 Win in my room so we could walk down to the college dump and shoot rats and bottles.We also walked over to the ROTC building and shot whenever we could afford the .75 fee. Unfortunately the ACLU, liberals and children of the Welfare pimps have taken over the society as we knew it in the 50's and 60's.
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