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Yesterday, I went along on a year end close-out hunt with some guys up in the central CA valley at a hunt farm and, in addition to my regular 20g, took my fav 410 along just in case I felt the need to be humbled. Before I left I stopped in a store and bought some Federal 3" #6 shot loads. I've never shot this load before nor did I have a chance to pattern it. But, nevertheless, I took out the 410 first and loaded up. In a few minutes I had made a nice easy shot and clean kill with it. All said and done the load accounted for the high number of birds in our party and at least one long crosser. I was very impressed with the load and I think I'll pattern it to find out why it was working as well as it did. I may even take it to SDak next season.
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I forgot to say, the birds were all hen phez.
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That's encouraging to hear Chuck. I've contemplated getting a .410 for field trial quail, but wasn't sure if it had much use beyond that.
Imagination is everything. - Einstein
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Marklart, I have been using the 410 in earnest for wild Calif quail about a season or so. I could not be more pleased. There's something about using a 410 that brings me pleasure I never thought a difference in guage could make. Also, my success on quail with the .410 as compared to 20ga is not that different. Since I'm not going hunting for subsistance, I figure what ever gives me more pleasure is a plus.
If you've moved down in gauges before, you know the issue of success becomes mostly a mind game. If you keep a positive attitude, you have a much higher probability of success. The 410 challenges you more than the other gauges that way.
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I have used a friend's 870 wingmaster 410 on field trial quail a few times, and it did seem like a heck of a lot of fun to shoot. Now he's shooting a Stevens 311 410, and I must confess to now wanting one more than I should. He's having way too much fun, and it makes my 16 feel like a cannon, albeit a very deadly one I must not be alone, because 410 prices seem to be going through the roof.
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Chuck, your favorite 410 wouldn't be that spruced up Nitro Special would it?? All the best
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My mod M-42 is as effective to 25 yds as any larger gun I have. Chuck, I pattern tested Rem 3" against Win 3/4 oz 3", and found the Remingtons to be both tighter and considerably faster. I think a full choke gun might be just the thing for the Winchester load, but haven't tested it on paper yet.
You might want to pattern test a couple/few different loads to gain insight into why the Federals worked so well for you.
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I have some copper-plated 7s that I got somewhere at a gun show long ago. I hoard them for .410 reloading; they seem to give me the best patterns in all my .410s (a Western Arms "Long Range," a Win 37 and a Savage 24 (all 3" "magnums) and a Win 20 (2 1/2"). Running low on them, tho. Do they still make these?
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Mike,
Ballistic Products has Nickle-plated number 7s. However, my experience with their NP stuff is it isn't very hard. If you can find some Remington STS target grade shot in size 7 (they do make it) it is the best I have ever used.
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Chuck A good .410 resource is http://www.4-10.freeuk.com/ I currently have two articles published there and used to have one about pheasant hunting (pen-raised birds) with a .410. What works for me is a modified left barrel and a cylinder or skeet right barrel. I use 3" shells with #7.5 shot and keep my shots under 25 yards. 11/16 ounces of #7.5 shot has an equivalent pellet count to 1 ounce of #6 shot and the birds didn't seem to notice the difference at that short range. I consider the modified choke to be the .410 equivalent of full choke. I find the .410 set up like I've written is extremely effective, so much so that to make the hunt even more sporting I eventually switched to a 36 gauge (.506 bore) SXS muzzle loader. Steve
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