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As a conservationist in Africa, this pic brings joy to my heart. Firstly, I doubt very much there are any decent guns in there; mostly ancient military rifles. More important, western Tanzania has a godawful poaching problem - all the wildlife is being eaten. These guns were most likely being used for large scale meat-poaching, and their destruction is saving tens of thousands of animals. Northern Kenya is awash with AK's, and as a result there is no wildlife left. This has been the story in one African country after another. And the gangs in Nairobi who used to be armed merely with pangas (machetes), now have AK's, too. Traditional livestock raiding is still a way of life here in northern Kenya. Until twenty years ago, a raid entailed a lot of hooting and hollering, and only occasionally someone hurt by a spear. Today the AK's often leave a few dozen dead behind - women, children, old men. As Lowell says, not everyone should be armed.
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They sure are stacked in a very neat order. It looks like there might be something holding them up and the whole stack might not be all guns.
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As a conservationist in Africa, this pic brings joy to my heart. Firstly, I doubt very much there are any decent guns in there; mostly ancient military rifles. More important, western Tanzania has a godawful poaching problem - all the wildlife is being eaten. These guns were most likely being used for large scale meat-poaching, and their destruction is saving tens of thousands of animals. Northern Kenya is awash with AK's, and as a result there is no wildlife left. This has been the story in one African country after another. And the gangs in Nairobi who used to be armed merely with pangas (machetes), now have AK's, too. Traditional livestock raiding is still a way of life here in northern Kenya. Until twenty years ago, a raid entailed a lot of hooting and hollering, and only occasionally someone hurt by a spear. Today the AK's often leave a few dozen dead behind - women, children, old men. As Lowell says, not everyone should be armed. No one would deny that stopping poaching would be a good thing. However, burning the guns does nothing to stop the poaching because the guns are not the cause of poaching. When the governments begin to address the reasons for poaching, rather than the means, then poaching will decline. People who commit these acts will have no difficulty getting guns no matter how many laws are passed or how many guns are destroyed.
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I bet it's harder to bring down rhino or jumbo with spear, bow or an ax eh?
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If you rummage around the 'net a little you'll see similar images from Australia: claws on the ends of cranes in scrap metal yards crushing grandpa's rabbit guns in their thousands; that was after the death of a thousand cuts though, when the individuals who were forced to surrender them were invited to see them first individually crushed to make them irrepairably disabled (because in earlier times a lot of surrendered stuff was not disabled and was waylaid on the way to the smelter. Infamously, the Port Arthur massacre was commited with such surrendered and rebirthed guns).
Much good stuff was quietly rescued, but a lot was scrapped too. RG
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Good people deserve good guns, and so it goes - breeding shows. ...and some I do not trust with a butter knife!
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That should be the poster for the Democratic agenda
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Good people deserve good guns, and so it goes - breeding shows. I breed some real good dogs. Start by picking carefully and get pups with great pedigrees and then only breed the ones that grow up superior. I never thought to be so selective in breeding people. How does one go about doing that Lowell? Jake
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I think some bloke had a few ideas about human pedigrees in the 1930s; Germany I think it was. Something about an Aryan super race and "lebensraum" for them to live in? Sounded quite idealistic and utopian really, but it got quite embarrassing when he saw how fast black guys could run (and I suspect he had a sneaking admiration for the way yellow guys could overrun, too). Same bloke had some really neat ideas on the registration of guns, too. Philospher of sorts - Albert Hiller? His name escapes me for the moment... RG
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Happened here also http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&...xJMXUpY#PPP1,M1"All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing" Actually, Edmund Burke never said this, but a fella named James sorta did: "Anyone, then, who knows the good he ought to do and doesn't do it, sins." I'm afraid many of us would end up WAY in the back of the Eugenics line
Last edited by revdocdrew; 03/29/08 09:16 PM.
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