Originally Posted By: H.W. Hyatt
I have an 1882 H&H 500 BPE rifle that has this charge inscribed on the side of the action:

"charge 5 drams NA, case 3 inches"


Charge is way too large for it to be smokeless. Standard .500 3" BPE load was 136 grains black under a 340 or 440 grain bullet. "Charge 5 drams" equals 136 grains, so the reference is to black in a standard load.

I agree that "NA" has to be a reference to a brand of black, and likely a British one. I suppose "N" could suggest Nobel's, but I wasn't aware that Nobel's ever made black at Ardeer? IIRC, National Arms and Ammunition was in trouble by then, so it probably isn't them.


"Serious rifles have two barrels, everything else just burns gunpowder."