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Glad to see you fellows got the "buttie" thing sorted out.For your info "Rosie Lee" is Cockney rhyme slang for tea. Not that I have a drop of English blood in me, but being married to a "Lancashire Lass" for 35 odd years has enabled me to become somewhat
bi-lingual.

The last factory loaded 4 gauge shells were done by Eley in the early 80's and they were all 3 ounce if memory serves. About the only semi-commercial source these days is Alan Myers. I was in his shop a few years ago and saw his giant 4 gauge reloading setup. The powder and shot bottles on the press were gallon size. It was pretty impressive, more so when I found out he'd built the whole thing himself from scratch. He uses an all plastic case that he had the molds made up for.


Destry

In my conversations w/ Mr. M.V. Highsmith, I learned that he once owned a W.W. Greener(I believe) single 4 bore that he goose hunted with. His story was that it was guaranteed(by whom I'll have to ask) to down a Botswana Swan(I couldn't find a pic and may be recanting incorrectly) at 120 yards w/ a 1/4 lb of shot charge. Being curious as to how much lead was involved from an empirical standpoint, I inquired as to how much lead would be needed. He leaned his head back, raised his eyebrows and said "an adequate amount". I waited in silence for what seemed like an eternity, which was actually about 2 minutes, and then pressed him on the issue wanting some quantifiable distance in chains, furlongs, yards and his only response was "oh, from about here to the fireplace." Sadly, he had long since sold the longarm.

The gentleman who loaned me the Holland & Holland told me to lead the really long ducks about the length of an iron farm gate. It worked, I killed a couple super long birds that day. Or super long for me anyway.....

DLH

I believe it is the same as an Irish "Boxtie". Like a potato pancake taco.

I know they still call them a buttie in Down Patrick and that's the heart of Northern Ireland.

D

I refrained until now from commenting on this because it really is a Brit thing. A buttie is a sandwich, a chip buttie is a chip sandwich, a bacon buttie is a rasher sandwich. What the US calls chips we call crisps, what the US call fries we call chips.... same school of English as a rug and a mat, 'cept when it is on a head and it's a wig! Proper chips are twice-fried in lard,however the Belgians say that they should be fried in horse fat, it's an oil boiling-point/temperature thing. Boxty has nothing to do with it, that would not be put in a sandwich... ever.
http://www.irishcultureandcustoms.com/2kitch/rPotatoes.html

Also have a look at Champ, if you are of a culinary bent!
K.

The 4 bore double gun at Cabelas is #1923 Sold in 1870 to Captain Ingham. The history of this gun and its owner is given on page 59 of David Bakers excellent book, "Thomas Horsley, Gunmaker of York."
To purchase acopy of this book contact: david.baker14@btinternet.com

A Buttie is a Sarny(ie) ..or sandw(H)ich.....at least when I grew in Somersetshire...I think they could hold other things than just "Chips"....but Chip butties sure rings bells
Rather have a pint O' Scrump then Fen Beer anytime...you can drink..or sprinkle it on your chip buttie in stead of Sarsons Malt
Still can't spell the queens english
cheers
Franc