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i hate to keep asking OT stuff but doggone it, i go where i can get answers. picked up this evening at cabelas an m11 that was so cheap that coupled with the points i had on my card it was essentially free. average used, polychoked, etc. but the bizarre thing is the forend. i knew the gun was heavy even by M11 standards (turned out is 9# with a 26" total barrel). the forend i'm 100% certain is Remington factory finish and checkering but it's far deeper than standard. on centerline it's 0.4" thick. no finger grooves down the sides; rather they taper up from the radiused bottom towards the barrel. the forend BY ITSELF weighs 15 OUNCES! that's essentially one pound of forend. i can't find in any old shooters bibles or any other book i have a picture of any model 11 with a fored like this. was there ever a skeet version m11 with a deep fat f/e?

another somewhat odd thing, the gun is in the 400k range, the bbl is still numbered to the gun and yet there are no letter codes (that i've found) for year of mfg. that serial number should have been well up into that era. and if this were a skeet gun i'd have thought the (matching) barrel would have been something other than plain/mod.

it also has 4 tapped holes on the top of the receiver, 2 either side of centerline and abt 3" apart longitudinally. i've never seen one but i'm assuming for something like the old Nydar sights?

roger

I'm on the road away from my Remington Arms Co., Inc, catalogues, but I seem to recall that the Skeet Gun was a three-shot "The Sportsman" not a 5-shot Model 11.

The Nydar Sight holes I've seen are on the rib of doubles and they have four holes in a row.

I've got a Model 11 forend that's similar to what you're describing I think. Somebody told me they thought it might be off of the military model. Could be one somebody picked up to replace a broken original.


Destry

That's the reason you got it so cheap.

i already knew why it was so cheap but my total investement wouldn't buy a half flat of shells. it's worth that. to me anyway. i could sell the bbl and buttstock alone and make several hundred % profit if that were all that mattered to me.

my initial thought was that it was a GI gun f/e but they actually had one of those on the rack up till recently. those are a lot smaller than this, uniform radius bottom, lower surface in side view is a straight line from front to back, and the sides are vertical with no finger grooves. that matches the pics in canfields book. plus they weren't checkered.

this one in side view resembles the sportsman f/e out at the magazine cap but then you notice that in front of the receiver it's at least a full 1/4" lower than the metal. it's all factory tho. it has the raised radial projection that fits in the recess in the receiver plus the recesses for the 2 pins on either side of the barrel that engage the holes in the receiver. the pins are missing of course but the provision is there.

i could only find references to skeet guns being made in the sportsman model as well.

[img]http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn252/mauser33806/m11_0608_3.jpg?t=1212680394[/img]

testing posting an image.

that's what i figured. every time i follow the directions i end up with nothing but the link posted instead of the pics actually appearing in the post. it's easy over on the accuratereloading forums; always works. anyway, the link works.

roger

You're right, that's completely different than what I've got.

I'm a big fan of the Model 11 so it's always fun to see something I've never seen before.


Destry

[img]http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn252/mauser33806/m11_0608_5-1.jpg?t=1212690894[/img]

the width is likewise huge, easily as fat as an 1100 and pear shaped in cross section. it's actually quite comfortable. just heavy and ugly. i kept looking for weights added as i can't believe they got a piece of wood that dense.

if i'm not mistaken, i believe there's a pic of a similar style in shirley's auto-5 book.

The fore-end looks home-made to me; why do you say its factory?...Geo