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Rem40, Ike is recognized in everything I've read as a great leader who kept things on the rails. There were more flamboyant generals, certainly more skilled in warcraft but on both sides, Allied and Axis, Ike and Marshall had few peers.
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The Allies lost more men in a few days in Normandy than the US has lost in five years in Iraq. Fortunately, none of our 1944 politicians were so eager to throw in the towel.
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I just finished a biography of Eisenhower. Ike doesn't get a lot of credit for his military prowess, especially from those who write from our British allies' perspective, but probably deserves more than he gets. I was impressed by the message he had written before the invasion was launched, to be given as an address in the event the invasion was repulsed, taking full blame for its failure. Don't see that kind of personal responsibility much anymore. If you will, what is the title of that book?
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"The field is the touchstone of the man"..
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Don:
The book is entitled "Ike: An American Hero" by Michael Korda.
A well written, highly readable account of his life.
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This one gives me chills - I have a high resolution pic as well 
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The Allies lost more men in a few days in Normandy than the US has lost in five years in Iraq. Fortunately, none of our 1944 politicians were so eager to throw in the towel. Men were men in those days, even Liberals, had guts as well as brains. Now days both sides, Liberal and Conservative seem to have all too many gutless wonders who know what to say to appeal to the masses without saying anything that means squat. Wordsmiths, poll and trend watchers we have by the boat load. Men willing to put their own life, their property, their fortunes and honor on the line for the country are just about gone. There are few men running this country that could and would sign the Declaration of Independence if they had it before them to do so today. If they wrote it today the first line would read.... We the government, in order to run a more equatable nation, reserve all power, rights, privileges and freedoms to the government and shall apportion them as we deem most reasonable so that all people can have the same low standard of living and same shallow future that we deem is good for you......
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Our fore fathers fought like hell to keep people free...
and now we got a guy running for US President that won't say the Pledge of Allegiance to the American flag...this is one scewed up country.
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jack was referring to politicians then and now. I don't think we can fault our armed forces. They're as good as ever. They go where our countries send them and perform well although two out of three citizens back home say they shouldn't be there.
When our men and women are fighting and dying to carry out our national mandates to impose our values overseas, should we fault our democratic societies when they say we've changed our minds, bring them home? It seems to me we're denigrating our countries when we say our peoples have no guts.
Burdened with a leadership vacuum and two unpopular wars, our electorates have said no more sacrifices to bureaucratic lying and bungling here and over there, bring our men and women home. That takes guts. The difference between 1944 and now is that all our people knew then what we fighting for.
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Don:
The book is entitled "Ike: An American Hero" by Michael Korda.
A well written, highly readable account of his life.
Rem I also just finished 'Ike'. Great book! If you liked that book than read this one also. Eisenhower and Marshall http://www.amazon.com/Partners-Command-G...6820&sr=8-1Lately I have also been reading the books of Max Hastings who is not afraid to tell it like it was. His latest is 'Retribution' about the War on Japan but he has many others about WW2. My Dad, God rest his soul, was a Lt JG US Navy on an LST, wounded on D-Day. He NEVER talked about it. As said, they were the greatest generation.-Dick
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