i think everyone's reading something into miller's post that he didn't say. he never said there was anything wrong with pumps and didn't in any way put them down or the people who use them. he simply said he'd rather have a utilitarian double than a utilitarian pump and where it was made was not a driving factor.
and i totally disagree with starting new shooters, particularly children, on pumps. my first gun came at age 9 and i was of average height and dimensions and the reach to every pump i shot at that time was too long for my arms unless the left arm was extended uncomfortably straight to the point it affected my shooting. some of today's youth models might be a little more accomodating. i convinced a coworker to start his kid with a youth model gas operated 20 ga auto and i'll stand by that.
my father, whom i consider smarter/wiser than most about guns, started me off with a sxs. with 2 triggers yet. but it was made in spain so i'm sure it's a piece of junk just like the turk guns.
one of the most curious things i've noticed about criticism's of the turk guns (and lots of spanish as well) is that the majority come from people who don't own them. the ones who buy and shoot them seem to like them.
roger
