ChuckH I think we mostly all agree that tower shooting will never replace wild bird shooting, but it sure does provide some fast and exciting shooting, and a chance to get together with a bunch of pretty good guys. The last shoot of the year here is particularly fun. The pens get cleaned out and you get Pheasants (not phez, whatever those are) chukars quail and ducks...Dunno if he will put any on this year, havnt seen any ads...