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Anyone know anything about this maker? Syrena of Liege.

Stumbled upon a sideplated boxlock with lovely highly figured honey and smoke stock, oak-adorned liegeious fences, and seems to have been crafted with attention to detail. The engraving on the sideplates seemed quite unremarkable, however, dare I say I wish they’d let it be rather than ruining a perfectly good canvas! Low 4 digit SN#.

All I was able to find on it was a catalog on eBay someone wanted $200 for (in Polish?) FWIW it looked almost identical to a Francotte catalog I have here that’s in French that covered their local offerings (which are very different from the line of guns Francottes that VL&D/A, A&F imported to the US), but I compared and the patterns were all slightly different but just about identical in style; however most lacked the greener cross bolt and side clips so common of US-imported Francottes from before the War.


Syrena of Liege

Is the frame with the three dig it serial number also engraved Charles Osborne?

Will do, craig. Will do.

....It would great if folks could avoid the pretty BS, but as you can see from Stan's post, for example, that is not going to happen. Thinking otherwise is a lot like tilting at windmills.[/quote]

You let everyone know prof. It's not about little dicks, faux maturity or lying that it's petty, but simply about you picking a side. A side that needs to be opposed at every opportunity. Apathy is the true problem, right prof, I know I can count on you to go the extra mile.

You are correct... long day at the show and I wasn't paying close attention. The Lyman 48 is on the wrong side to be a Winchester... I'm still very happy with my new G&H... waiting to hear back from G&H regarding getting a build letter....

It would great if folks could avoid the pretty BS, but as you can see from Stan's post, for example, that is not going to happen. Thinking otherwise is a lot like tilting at windmills.

Winchester style safety likely fitted when they changed over to 1in rings to use the newer weaver scope.

He can't help it, Brian. He's just brent that way.

As I plainly stated, and that should show no feathers ruffled. For that matter, why would you even think that? Considering I was making an observation, not grinding my own axe. you can tilt at all the windmills you like. as long as I can avoid the petty BS, I'm good. Otherwise, I just dont click on a thread. Simple as that.

I ran across an interesting clip that TGS put on YouTube on Gallyon manufacturing process on a British Best. Titled "The pursuit of perfection inside a British gun making factory with Gallyon"

What was interesting to me was this company uses adhesives verses solder. Interesting watch if you have time 52 min.

R/
Rich

P. Webley, which later became Webley & Scott, built many of them.

Best,
Ted

A friend (and FFL) happened to have a Army & Navy marked .410 2 1/2" chambered hammered SxS. Does anyone happen to know who might have the gun for Army & Navy.

Was it W&C Scott and Sons or might it have been a different maker?

I only took a quick look at the gun because I didn't want to like it so much that I would buy it, but the barrels didn't appear to be Damascus. It was nitro proofed in Birmingham for 2 1/2" shells. It didn't appear to have been abused and may have been in original condition, showing the expected wear and tear of a working gun. There were probably a couple of small cracks, not anywhere important and the barrels were bright.

Yep a nice 1903 Springfield with a very cool model 70 style 3 position safety. Great find!

got the adjustable bite...have always admired that particular feature, and have been trained to be curious of how many patent references are on the old scott's - looks to be a dandy.

Keith, your last post was a great analysis put in simple, easy to understand terms. Well said my friend.
JR

It sure would be nice if we could stick to double guns, but if we cannot, then I am certainly willing to stand up for my side of the fence. Simple as that. Sorry if it ruffles your feathers. That is not my intent.

I for one an quite happy with the outcome of the election. That is the extent of my political commentary.

what i am not happy about is the never-ending pissing matches here.
I dont engage in them. There are several posters (posers) i would engage with if I wanted to go down those rabbit holes and go tit for tat over stupid $hit but I dont. Its called maturity.
I have been on this site for quite a while. I don't post for periods of time because I have nothing of value to add to something being discussed and I don't want to be in the middle of some childish bickering of grown ass men. I have to put up with enough childish behavior with a wife of 45 years, so this should be an escape from that. And I do come here to learn.
while flaming each other may feel good at the moment, it is a waste of time for those of us that have to wade through the BS to get to the heart of a posting.
The key board commandoes always want to engage in big D!ck contests. To that I just want to say "grow the F up! its a friggin double gun site. You know, we talk about guns and hunting.
Most of you who have axes to grind with each other will never ever see each other in person. So you grow a big pair sitting behind a keyboard and subject us (who want to learn more about double guns) to your petty feuds. Some of you remind me of those two old geezers on the Muppets who constantly argue with each other.
Yes, we have free speech. And I have risked my life to defend it. And you can exercise your free speech and go on with your petty feuds. And I will sit back, ignore when I can those of you who have a terminal case of sand in your Mangina's and separate the petty BS from the knowledge that is often offered here.

PS: I wish dueling was still legal and all of you who engage in this behavior could meet and settle it once and for all. And it would cleanse the gene pool of half of the problem!

NICE SCOTT. NICE FIND. Love the dog game scenes.

Interesting Bernardelli video, I watched the part about Piani Fissi and surprised myself about how much Italian I was able to understand.

What does the MLAGB(National Muzzleloading Association of Great Briton) think of the new lead restriction rules? Maybe the shotgunners can substitute bismuth but what of the ML Rigby, Whitworth and such riles; including the BP cartridge guns to do?

I didn't post a picture.

Thanks for posting this info.
I never knew this went as far back to 1884

John,

I am envious you got to visit Bernardelli before they closed.
Long ago a Bernardelli Roma 6 28ga was my first SxS.
Last year I visited a gunmaker in Marcheno; as you say none regulate except the top end like maybe Parazzi or F.Lli Rizzini.
And drove past the closed Bernardelli factory.
I found this video of Bernardelli - shows the Piani Fissi barrel at about 13:30

Bernardelli

I could not see the picture?