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Re: The pinfire game gun
AaronN
04/25/24 04:00 PM
Yeah it's the same idea. No idea if it was converted or made that way. But unlikely a pinfire cartridge would work with it. I have a handful of these, some of which are US patents. I did a short article on these some time ago, focusing on the pistol cartridges. This gun had an insert that allowed it to work also with pinfire cartridges. And some had a very tapered "pin" to allow it to work in existing 12mm revolvers:
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Re: The pinfire game gun
Daryl Hallquist
04/25/24 03:36 PM
Aaron, I enjoyed your chamber conversions above. What is your take on this Greener for sale ? It looks to me like a pinfire converted back to a percussion muzzle loader. With this conversion done it seems the gun cannot be used as a pinfire.
https://www.invaluable.com/auction-lot/W.-W.-GREENER-A-12-BORE-PINFIRE-HAMMER-GUN,-NO.-7-226-c-7164CB0923?utm_source=egemail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=lot_abandonment
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Re: The pinfire game gun
AaronN
04/25/24 03:00 PM
Original Blanch receipt for his Beringer purchase in Nov 1855 - the medals are interesting: Also, not that it really matters for the story, but this invoice is not actually from Beringer, it is from Hippolyte Rochatte who calls himself Beringer's student and successor. And based on the items in the invoice I am trying to guess what gun it may've been. Since they sold percussion caps with it and separate "priming tubes" I am thinking maybe the gun that they were advertising a lot around then such as one like this with the auxiliary chambers: https://www.aiolfi.com/vente/vente-.../armes-depaule/fusil-a-systeme-beringer/There is a little metal piece you can put in to allow it to load as a muzzle loader too which they advertised: I think these guns would struggle with working with a pinfire cartridges as the pin would move around a lot in the larger hole in the barrel. I have a handful of various percussion chambers like this. Though for some reason I have never had the chance to buy a Beringer one.
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Re: Advantages of a Lefever over a Smith?
Jimmy W
04/25/24 02:27 PM
I can understand why the scalloped ones would have problems. I think I always just liked the looks of a boxlock, too. But that's just me. I don't mean to run down or ridicule someone else's admiration for certain guns. If I have I apologize for that. As I said earlier, the eye of the beholder. And I respect that. Thanks.
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