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Isn’t there a book or two on Sauer guns ?

Too, I think the thought was one day it may be published, but I am confident that train has sailed.

It is nothing but a cryptic Word Doc, from what I am aware.

Now several years back there was an effort to made 100 or 400 copies, I can't recall exactly, of gunmaker info or similar that was pressed on CDs, but I didn't commit @ the last minute and not sure what is on them. I know the German Gun Collector's Association chipped in & made a purchase.

Hochachtungsvoll

Raimey
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Personally I'd not have an issue with the initials. And it's part of the gun's history so I'd leave them alone. Who knows, maybe someday you'll figure out whose initials they are and may be someone famous.

Thanks all. I had found that, and it only covers up to 1924. But its good stuff and now in my archive. But I did find this: https://www.shotguns.se/html/sauer_information.html. Says the Model 60 started in 1960, and might be US only.

Why would you ask that stupid question, Daryl? I mean,dang…
JR

I have posted my feelings about finding an empty shell as well, before, on this site. Maybe it's worth repeating.

If I am hunting public land I almost never see one. The place Gil and I hunt woodcock are pretty remote and very few souls venture there for doodles. In maybe 10 years of hunting there with him I have never seen a hull that I can recall. If I did, I wouldn't lose any sleep over it, and I'd pick it up.

On my private land that has been in my family since 1919 I do find an occasional empty. I steward this land as I farm it in corn, cotton and peanuts. We have had lots of dove shoots here over my 66 years of chasing the little grey rockets. Even with plastic hulls, they deteriorate due to UV rays. I occasionally see them with not much left but a dark, oxidized head. Steel ones will eventually rust away, never to be seen again. Older, solid brass ones will be very dark and hardly noticable.

They bring a smile to my countenance as I recall past "warm corners" in that location. One particular find was, and remains, precious.

I was in a field that I knew held many wild bobs in my grandaddy's day. He was an inveterate quail hunter and started out with a double of some make. He often told me of using Remington New Club shells. One day I found only the head of a New Club, the paper casing being long before returned to the earth from which it came. The markings on the head were sharp and clear, and when I picked it up and wiped it off I instantly knew I was holding the remains of a round grandaddy had fired at a quail. Childhood memories of him flooded back, along with stories of his hunts. Money couldn't buy that old shell head from me, then or now.

I admire those who eschew litter, as I do. But, cigarette packs or candy wrappers are not in the same universe as an old shell casing, for me. I pick up litter on my farm, and those that I lease. When I am invited to a dove shoot on another farm I scour for all the empties, but seldom have any to gather because I have trapped them as they are ejected and placed them in my shell bag.

Different strokes, and different chokes, for different folks.

Cool story. Anyone else crash or just you?


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You bringing your own gear or are you going to rent?

I always come back with a few more empties than I shot.


Best,
Ted

It was a 1995 Suzuki GSXF600, you could likely buy a dozen of them for the price of one BMW S1000. I bought enough insurance to cover most of the bike, and my regular bike insurance covered the rest. Back then (maybe today, too) the insurance you bought on your bike covered part of a loss on a different bike. Submitted the whole mess to both and let them fight it out. My insurance now is through a company that insures Classics and special interest vehicles, I have to look to see what it does and doesn’t do.

How ‘aboot you, Sport? The policy you keep on the Cub do you any favors if you drop your cousins Harley at a stop sign?

Again.

Best,
Ted

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All the riding gear was mine, however. Stuffed it in the trash, and rented kit for the next day.

There is a Sauer series in DGJ with serial number in one article.

I googled JP Sauer aging by serial number and found a german document with the info. Sorry no link but it was just only a month or two ago.

I'm with Mr. Roberts on this one, with perhaps a few modifiers.

A single shell found way out in the middle of nowhere makes me smile just a bit. The older and smaller the gauge the better. But...I will pick up shells (along with the other debris I find on the grouse trails up here) because too many can bother me to see them, especially in a beautiful and otherwise unsullied place.

John, do you think the same way about candy bar wrappers and empty cigarette packs ?

Bet he wasn’t too pleased when you bent his bike up. Did you have to pay for it?


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Confused is an understatement.

No. Confused when you post, but, old jOe prepared me fairly well.

You’ll want to be sober when Code fits you for leathers that day.

Best,
Ted

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Keith doesn’t have much of a sense of humor when he is on the track.

The Ridge it is! Good choice.


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Bit of an angry chap, aren’t you?

I know I will be in an extreme minority with this position, and I don't mean to hijack the thread, but I've never worried about leaving the odd hull in the field or coming across someone else's. In fact, I find it somewhat pleasing to come across the one in the grass or dirt that was from another day or another year where someone fired off what was a thrilling shot at whatever the pursuit entailed, rolling it around in my hand and pondering it a bit before dropping it back near its resting place for the next wayfarer to encounter. Of course, I never leave a pile of empties around my spot in a dove field, being sure to gather up all I can find. But I don't consider empties in the field a bad thing; to the contrary, they remind me of what it's all about...
JR

I didn’t say anything ‘aboot Ridge. How many Jäegermeister shots have you done this morning?

You’re hallucinating-again.

Best,
Ted

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There a VA clinic anywhere that C-17 is going? A VA with a head shrinker on staff?

Wow. Thank you for sharing that. And as already said, you know who to not have handle your estate, unless you are trying to ‘pay-it-forward’ and have him only show it to younger customers.

I really like the rifle. Heck, you can’t even get a beat milsurp Turkish Mauser for $200 anymore

Im looking at a SXS. I think its made in Belgium by the proof marks. Its marked Wapen Defoten Falun Special Export. Falun is a city in Sweden. I found a Vapen Defoten catalog on line showing sporting goods. Kinda like a Swedish Gander Mountaim. Does anybody know who actually made this gun?

As I am somewhat looking for a Graded Parker 20 bore I picked up my copy of "Parker Guns" by Ed Muderlak. In Chapter 16 "Doves and Extractors" he talks about his GH Parker and how he prefers non ejector guns.
Which brings me back to my early days bird hunting here in central NC. I was hunting public game lands here in Butner, NC and pulled over to a "birdy" looking spot. Grabbed my double and let the dog loose. In to the patch we went Not long into this I looked down and saw two 12 gauge hulls laying next to each other. I bent over and picked them up and low and behold "Birdshot"! Not even another 30 yards I busted the covey. I knew the birds were there from those two spent shells.
Needless to say I was shooting my Ithaca / SKB Model 100 non ejector. I made sure I left no trace any other bird hunter had been there so I could return the following week myself.

Does anybody have a source for serial numbers for a Model 60 SXS?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/287505120238

Except Canadian Tire Motorsports Park.



Not Chuckwalla Valley Raceway…too sandy.



The Ridge Motorsports park, nope…too green.

Split the difference, Sonoma Raceway. Not too sandy, not too green.


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