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Re: English side by side pigeon guns PALUNC 09/27/23 06:14 PM
would prefer a vintage English leather case. But beggars can't be choosey
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Re: Milling a rim Cutout on an O/U ejector Der Ami 09/27/23 04:46 PM
I have done a couple rim recesses with piloted counterbores. Turn a new pilot to fit the chamber and grind a slightly larger counterbore t the diameter of the rim recess. If you don't have a toolpost grinder, you can "rig" a hand grinder in the milling attachment to make one. I find that 4 or 5 small cutoff discs(trued) stacked on the handpiece makes a satisfactory grinding wheel. I turn the work backward and the grinder forward, but friends disagree with that. Cover the bed and dovetail surfaces well. Use a piece of sheet metal to block the sparks from catching the cover afire. I always turned the counterbore by hand to prevent catastrophic mistakes, but I can understand setting the barrel/extractor between centers in the lathe with the counterbore in the headstock and a plug with center in the appropriate barrel muzzle. I would still loosen the belts and turn the chuck by hand, rather than under power.
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Re: September .410 Driven Partridge Shoot Karl Graebner 09/27/23 03:48 PM
Very entertaining to watch, thanks for sharing! Humbling to watch such great shooting in that strong wind, amazing what a .410 can do!
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Re: 2023 / 410 Championship UK Parabola 09/27/23 12:15 PM
Johnny at TGS did well to get that very nice AyA No. 4 .410 at just under £1,000.

I have looked at Guntrader UK where a new one is on offer at £8,222 (more than a pair of second hand No. 2 .410 AyA sidelocks), and a similar second hand one at £3,495.

There is one at the next Holts estimated at £700 to £900 (I.e. up to £1,200 with the buyer’s premium).
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Re: Dating early 20th Century French Shotguns ronboss 09/27/23 06:21 AM
Good afternoon. Need help identifying the manufacturer of the gun. The barrels have Saint-Etienne markings and Suhl markings as well.
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Browning Superposed ejectpr sring and guide replac Brian 09/27/23 02:45 AM
I have to install new ejector spring and guide rod in a 20 Ga Superposed.
any tips on getting that rod and spring to compress to get into its recess and detent spot?
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Re: Williams Twilight peep/aperture? liverwort 09/27/23 12:20 AM
relics6165 Thank you. I will have to look that over.
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Re: Boyd& Tyler 16ga help Joe Wood 09/26/23 10:18 PM
That is a really interesting Rube Goldberg contraption. Would love to have it in hand and play with it awhile. Points of firing pins appear flat and original. Some early primer variation?
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Re: Drew Hause eightbore 09/26/23 09:19 PM
Drew could also have mentioned that the PGCA forum requires real names for conversations between members on the forum. Sadly, the Fox Collectors forum does not require such identification. Even as a life member of the Fox organization, I have no idea who I am corresponding with.
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Re: Identify a Stock from the Inletting..... Hugh Lomas 09/26/23 08:52 PM
Pretty Much all, Mk1,2 &3 Matadors left the factory with an auto safety. It operates from a straight wire rod operating from the under bolt through to the front of the trigger block blade. As soon as it gave problems with auto engaging with the first shot (Quite common) it was easily removed by withdrawing through the stock. Dimensions were @ .060" dia x 1" long. next time you have one in check for a small hole drilled from the rectangular bolt recess to the trigger blade.
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Re: R.G. Owen Postwar Mauser rifle Marks_21 09/26/23 07:43 PM
Welllllllll, if you need me to take it off your hands….
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Re: WTB-Browning Superposed-20GA J.B.Patton 09/26/23 12:35 PM
First year examples seem to be drawing a premium!

Best Regards,
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Re: Krieghoff Drilling in Rare 20 Gauge/.243/.22 Horne ChiefO 09/26/23 11:13 AM
Very nice drilling!! GLWS
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2023 Vintage Gunners Trophies are heading to USPS Joe in Charlotte 09/26/23 12:26 AM
Hello all,

I have found addresses for everyone who did not collect their trophy at the Vintage Gunners Cup.
It was hot. I can't blame anyone for heading for a/c.

Some folks left before the scores were posted.

Rest assured, your trophies will be with USPS in the morning.

All Best,

Joe Norcom
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Nice Krieghoff drilling..... Tombigbee 09/25/23 11:11 PM the for sale section.

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Re: Merkel Rear Trigger Problem Der Ami 09/25/23 05:35 PM
Thanks for the good thoughts and prayers everyone.
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Re: Repost: Reilly Percussion Barrel 1840 or 1855 Daryl Hallquist 09/25/23 05:31 PM
I have an 1831 John Manton flinter with the bore size stamped.
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Re: Tipping your guide randy 09/25/23 05:29 PM
Thank you, gentlemen, for the information
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Re: Favorite Gun/Game Pictures - 2023 Hunting Season shrapnel 09/25/23 05:55 AM
Another older Webley…

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Re: E.M. Reilly; History; Chronology; Serial Numbers Argo44 09/25/23 01:31 AM
Thanks to Stephen Howell for calling this to my attention:

There is a single barrel Reilly advertised on Holts - a .297/.250 side-lever rook rifle.

Holts says in the advertisement that the SN is "2943." Holts' own photos, however, shows a Reilly SN 35394 on the gun. It has "E.M. Reilly & Co., 295, Oxford Street, London" on the barrel; the chart originally dated this SN to early 1903:
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But there is a problem. Holts' already has published a Reilly SxS shotgun allegedly with SN 35394, a 12 bore without mention of an address on the rib and with very minimal photos, which was postulated to be the last gun built in Feb 1903 at 277 Oxford Street.
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Obviously there can't be two 35394's. So it's best to believe the eyes and put the rook rifle into this slot and not the SxS which only relies on Holts' advertising accuracy. This is going to require a slight redo of the chart again around the time of the changeover from 277 to 295 Oxford Street, Feb 1903 - May 1904.
-- 35394 (the rook rifle) now moves to May 1904.
-- 35386 (address on barrel not mentioned), a .410 top lever SxS, is now assumed to be the last extant Reilly gun made at 277 Oxford Street Feb 1903. It is owned by "Roger Hill" and was mentioned in one post but no other references.

Reilly "3"'s and "5"'s are very similar and have often been confused. So, the 12 bore, Side lock, non extractor SxS advertised by Holts as "35394," has been moved to the 35594 slot (with a question mark). (Holts has mis-advertised Reilly's before).

Holts started off referencing this site's work. About 4 years ago I wrote to them about a couple of misidentifications. They have since gone their own way on dating Reilly's and refuse to use the work at all, alone amongst the other auction houses, or even to answer any queries. The gun industry is filled up with egos and opinions and these can get personal and dogmatic in a hurry and evidence be damned.
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Model 21 Double Trigger 20 Gauge Bob Cash 09/24/23 07:19 PM
Any interest in an excellent, original condition, mid 30's Model 21?
20 gauge, double triggers, splinter forend, extractors.
28" barrels, mirror bores, Full / Mod. 6 1/4 lbs, 90% original finishes
2 7/16" DAH 1 5/8" DAC 14" LOP
Just a beautiful unmolested survivor.

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Re: SBT eeb 09/24/23 05:54 PM
Where do you live?
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Re: J. Woodward & Sons Book JohnfromUK 09/24/23 01:15 PM
It was someone at Merlin Unwin who told me (on the phone last week when I ordered and paid by card) that it would be despatched towards the end of September. Maybe they are awaiting a further delivery?
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Re: army & navy 410 mc 09/24/23 12:18 AM
You might want to reevaluate your pricing structure
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Re: Heat bluing PhysDoc 09/23/23 03:20 PM
Originally Posted by keith
I mainly use potassium nitrate salts for spring tempering or to blue small parts like screws. I never tried it on larger items such as steel grip caps or trigger guards because I have read that it isn't a very durable bluing process for parts subject to wear. I'm curious to hear if anyone has personal experience to share on durability. I am intrigued by the higher temp charcoal process such as that used by Colt or the Carbonia process used by Smith & Wesson. Obviously, those processes were beautiful and held up well. We had a good discussion about this a few years ago:

Hi Keith

Sorry for the delay in replying, I've been playing around with both methods over the summer and discovered this, that if I take a soft wire wheel used for carding, that the wheel will remove the heat blued finish but not the charcoal blued one. In fact the charcoal blued finish looks better after carding.

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