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In regards to this subject area, does anyone here shoot or know anyone who shoots the Federal 1.75 inch number 8s in Damascus guns with ample barrel and chamber wall thickness and in overall very good condition? I have some British 2.5 inch low pressure shells that I have shot in it but the idea of hunting upland with a pocket full of the shorter shells interests me. I havent shot it or these shells I mention in so long I have forgotten the name brand. I think they may be Ely shells??

I found a different and likely new web site: https://www.baschieri-pellagri.com/en/ If you wend your way through each type of shotshell they still provide pressure curves. A quick look didn't reveal any 2.5" shotshells although they do have some 2 5/8" shotshells (F2 classic 16 gauge. These are kind of hot at 720 bar). Some shells in the MB line are around 8000 psi. I really liked their 16 gauge offerings but since their acquisition by Fiocchi they don't show up on the U.S. web site, probably not to compete with Fiocchi's Golden pheasant line although Golden Pheasants are too hot for a CIP-proofed gun.

Bruce

I have a Aya No. 2 sidelock needing smithing. It has a top lever riding well onto the left side. I don't know if it needs the bite tightened, to be put back on face, a hook and pin job, or which.

Who would be a U.S. gunsmith folks here like to use to evaluate and possibly conduct work on these?

Thanks in advance.

I've had it done on one AH Fox, a 20 ga. Philadelphia Sterlingworth Ejector. My advice would be to have it done by a very knowledgeable barrel man and tell him to lengthen them only if the remaining barrel wall thickness will be safe.

I had no reservations about my barrel man being able to make that decision knowledgeably.

It appears that it was George Rose:





Sorry about the passing of one of our board members.

Best,
Ted

Looking at that photo again...I might be reading it upside down; the crossguards on the swords are on the bottom.

...in that case might that horizontal line be the top of "T", which would put the 2nd proof in 1938 - 1939?

Pictures. Even with the maximum amount of oxymorons, words only get us so far.

Best,
Ted

One in sixty would seem to be a very slow twist for any elongated bullet. I shot 60" twists in larger bore roundball rifles but always understood that as the projectile got longer than the diameter it needed more twist to stabilize it.

Just some thoughts based on my experience.

So I shot Noontootla, very hilly, decent targets, shot 410 and needed 3" shells on a couple, but it was cold. Very nice lady running the place. My plan was to try Winghaven on the way home. This weekend looks bad. I appreciate the tips and offer to meet up, will definitely try to make something work.

Pattern it. Try different velocities and different payloads. One may regulate better, and/or pattern better.

Patterning is the first order of business when I get a new S X S gun.

I've never jumped on the 410 wagon but for about 15 years now I've had a 410 Nitro Special down in the safe. As a lot of people did back then, the stock was cut short for a child or a woman.

If anyone knows of a replacement please let me know. The gun came with about 10 boxes of ammo.

The O'Connors couldn't keep the barrels straight on their two barrel sets. Their other 16 gauge two barrel set also has mismatched barrels. Two guns ruined. A nice field used $2800 Model 21 with an extra set of barrels for ebay. They should bring at least $400.

Here's Franz Kettner Hahn Dreiling in 8X57R/360 that passed thru the Collath Frankfurt on the Oder Proof Facility with load data of 1,5 grammes of Triosdorfer B. P. with a 15 gramme lead bullet.


Hochachtungsvoll,

Raimey
rse

More than likely it was red a healthy diet of 70mm case length cartridges and that made it loose.


Hochachtungsvoll,

Raimey
rse

I looked in both books and couldn't find it. Anyone else?

and for the record, i do understand every old gun nearing 100 years old is a crap shoot as far as what will be next.
its just the lure of a WR trap gun strengthened to endure, that caught my eye.
i do thank all the inputs to steer me to a logical decision.

Thanks Steve. I've seen Reilly bayonets but not knives. A lot of the bayonets were made by Charles Reeves who did license others to produce his patented one-piece swords. However, I somehow doubt that Reilly actually made and etched his bayonets himself. Also I've never seen Reilly labeled cutlery from this late in time, post November 1881. This has been added to the Cutlery section of the history per below. I'll ask the seller if there are any extraneous initials on the knife: (Edit: Reply from auction: "No engraving or marks beyond that noted in the description." Also note that it is engraved E.M. Reilly & Co., not "E.M.R.)

Here is the Text from the book with sentence added and the footnotes for the record:

*43 Early 1860’s: Reilly and Cutlery, Swords, Bayonets

Business anthologies at this time identified EM Reilly as both gun and pistol manufacturers and sword/cutlery makers.*43a Reilly's name has been found engraved on bayonets and swords from the era. Bayonets were a part of the Yoemanry Militia “kit” and Reilly included a bayonet with each militia rifle he sold, enough volume to make a subsidiary business profitable.*43b. A Reilly stag-horned hunting knife also exists from as late as the 1880's.*43c

One surviving Reilly bayonet is a slightly modified version of the “official” “sword bayonets” attached to Gen. Jacob’s patent SxS’s which fired an explosive bullet; Reilly made the guns under license.*43d

One Reilly sword/bayonet has the maker's name "Reeves" engraved on it.*43e Charles Reeves patented a solid hilt sword in 1851 and marketed it to officers. Reeves became the largest sword maker in Birmingham in the 1850's and appeared to have partnered with Wilkinson in London. He would engrave or rather etch swords to a retailer's specification.

There were makers that made Reeves patent swords under license. Whether Reilly did so or bought the blades from Reeves is not known, but probably the latter.*43f

====== *43 Reilly Cutlery, Swords, Bayonettes - FOOTNOTES ======

. . . . . *43a 1864 – Williams’s Manufacturers’ Directory: Reilly listed under “Swords: Cutlers Manufacturers” section:


. . . . .*43d Standard pattern bayonet and Volunteer rifle:
. . . . . . . . . .22 Dec 1860, “Volunteer Services Gazette” - Note SN EMR 11396: This number no doubt is the serial number of the Enfield which the bayonettes went with.



. . . . . *43c - Stage-handled hunting knife marked "EMR, 16 New Oxford St., London."



. . . . .*43d Sword Bayonette

Gen Jacob’s Sword Bayonette


====== *43 Reilly Cutlery, Swords, Bayonettes END FOOTNOTES ======

I'm away from home until the 1st of Feb. I'll take some photos when I get home and post them.

None of my Tobins had the BP mark up on the tubes, regardless of what steel type, Demoya, Krupp, whatever, was marked. I don’t know who put that there.

That gun is pristine compared to most I have seen on this side of the pond. Many look like the owners quit using them for hunting and used them as canoe paddles for the last fifty years of ownership.

Best,
Ted

Kutter gave great advice, as usual.

Baker forends show up often on Ebay, and I've bought two at very reasonable cost because the seller had no idea what they were.

Another great source for flat spring stock is lawnmower or small engine recoil starter springs. I also watch at flea markets, etc. for old key wind clocks, alarm clocks, etc. Broken electricians fishtapes, handsaws, plumbers snakes, and even old tape measures are sources of good quality flat spring stock of different widths and thicknesses.

I save spring stock whenever I find it so I don't have to search when I need it. It helps immensely to have a piece close to the correct width and thickness when you need to fabricate a spring. Simple spark testing with a grinder is a good way to tell high carbon spring steel from some alloys that are harder to heat treat.

I don't know the carbon content of flat steel banding, or how well it would temper into a spring. It takes a set very easily as is. So I'd guess it is probably no higher than 1050 to 1060.

Good to hear!

Something is to be said about the wood quality on the Yildiz shotguns. Below are my single-shots by Yildiz that I've had purpose modified for delivering wild turkey hand loads of TSS shot, #9-10. Why these guns? Lightness is one factor. The .410s are 3.25 lbs. and the 12s are 4.25 lbs. Why not a 20 ga.? Yildiz doesn't have one in single-shot. My Baikal single shot in 20 ga. is 5.5 lbs. Another feature of the single shots is the finish. The action is anodized aluminum with steel inserts in critical areas. The barrels are finished in black satin chrome. The finishes are more corrosion resistant than blued steel. Cost? NIB, the TK36 guns depicted were $130 and the TK12s were $150. The current prices are $160 and $170 respectively. The wood is exceptional except on the top gun which was my first that I had rigged out with screw in chokes and red dot bases by Sumtoy as were the other guns. The guns without red dots have Marble posts and Skinner adjustable peep sights. The .410 with the Skinner system required SKB to fashion a collar on the muzzle to accommodate the Marble fiber optic post. The small Skinner peep required Sumtoy to mill flat the receiver curve. The artwork was done by Mark Larson. All four guns have been successful in the field for the purpose intended. The one gun with bright finish on the action is hunted with bow tape on the action. The other was was Duracoated by me. These folding to load and cock guns are similar in design to the 1950s era Beretta M412 series, but with a tang mounted safety. At my age, it's nice to carry a lightweight shotgun as my "running and gunning" is now mostly "stumbling and bumbling." Gil

Thanks, y'all.

From what I can remember it looked like the Bronco, but a lot of water has gone under the bridge in the last 56-57 years. Lots of other stuff, too.

Near and dear to my heart, Parabola.

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