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Bob Jurewicz

Microsoft SmartScreen finally blocked the porn site. It's good to find out it works.
Mike

Skeet/Skeet Buzz
.005 on the bottom, .004 on top

You could lighten it up even more if the barrel walls allow which I'm sure they likely would since a 28 b plus you could add more choke if you want by having the barrels back bored and rechoked by a pro. IC/Mod would be perfect imho and backbore would reduce weight a few more ounces (? 2-3-4 ?). Just some food for thought unless you are looking for a skeet gun?

Hello Mike,

Yes, I consider Axel the absolute authority of Mausers. He has been much help over the years. And yes, he posted pictures of one with a lower number than this one. I like to post on multiple forums because some forum members don't subscribe to other forums, and by doing so I can get several opinions - albeit good or bad. I believe the stock was also a European addition / upgrade based on the "old" condition and the German style script serial number in the barrel channel and the horn butt plate. Perhaps the original stock was broken.

Thanks very much for your input.

Buck

buckstix,
Upon further review and re- consideration, I no longer believe your rifle has the lowest numbered transitional action known. In one of his comments, Axel mentions one numbered in the teens, whereas yours is 27.(Note, it is pretty hard to evaluate these rifles when they are posted under different threads in different forums and some photos open while others may not) By the way, If I tell you something and Axel tells you something different in the same or different forum, you should accept his comments as authoritative. Since I think the action was used in the testing and later sold to Sauer and had a civilian rifle built around it, which was still later donated to help the war effort against the British, it would have markings from different sources. Most of the markings come from its life as a civilian rifle and its production as one. The numbers 27on the action are from Mauser, except the one on the barrel next to the receiver ring, which was Sauer matching their new barrel to the correct receiver. The number 76838 is the Sauer serial number and wherever there is an 838 it is Sauer's procedure to match parts to the serial number 76838 . The number 172/28 is the proof mark, showing the bore (not groove or bullet) diameter as expressed in gauge measurement. The 2.75g G.B.P. over St.M.P. is the nitro proof load, meaning 2.75grams of rifle flake powder with a steel jacketed bullet. The two crowns, one of which is over an N is the proof mark showing nitro proof of rifles. The little men, affectionally known as Wildman are Sauer's in house quality marks and are not official proof marks. The Imperial eagle on the barrel flat was applied by the Imperial government to accept the rifle for use in the Great(large)War. The bore diameter being shown in gauge measurement means Sauer built it before the 1911 improvements to the 1891 proof law were implemented in 1912. It would have been built after testing in 1896/7 was completed; so, between 1898 and 1912. Unfortunately, the original Sauer stock seems to have been replaced with a more modern style one, and unless the person you bought the rifle from can produce it, the identification of the military unit it was issued to is lost. Other single numbers or other marks are likely workmen's touch marks and since there is no ledger of them the workmen cannot be positively identified. I hope this helps.
Mike

To what is this advertising verbiage referring? Was there something unique about the Lefever top rib extension lock-up?
March 7, 1908 "Forest & Stream"
The top rib extension compensating screw was eliminated by then?

Happened again last night. 9:00 pm.

These fellas were impressed with their Lefevers

Walter Ewing, Canada (Individual Gold) and George Beattie (Silver) at the 1908 London Olympic Games

Great day in the morning, that's pretty!

Wh-a-a-at!!?? That's not a Model 21!! Ha-ha!! Just kidding, Bob. That wood is gorgeous!! Great gun!! Have fun.

Sounds like a lot of fun. Have a great time and break 'em all!!

I got a similar slip from British Sporting Arms that was made by Croots in England, it's extremely well made and the materials feel excellent.

Nice upgrade!

Ken

Just for fun video. 20 gauge.

He’s over on the other shotgun forum still spewing his idiocy about his love for the best SxS ever devised.

That was hilarious!!!

It has NOT happened to me at all. I check in at least twice a day.

Chose a new blank from Cecil





Reconfigured the forearm slide hardware to cross through

Re grayed, re blued, re gold and refinished. Put on a strict diet, now 6 pounds 6 ounces.

Early last year I acquired a 1970 Superposed Diana 28 gauge. New Style Skeet...Ugh(ly). 28" barrels, 7 1/2 pounds
Its' condition was admirable and the price was not to be believed.



Too good to be true, I checked for salt.



This scarce sub gauge only had 4 issues that I could see,









I rinsed the little bit of throw up from my mouth and went to work.

Bill, every son born in the Hunter family was given a setter. Jim Hunter whose great-great-grandfather was James Hunter, one of the six brothers who ran Hunter Arms Co., was given a setter when he was born and he is now in his early 60's.

Dan Lefever was a setter man. That's enough for me. I have 75 years with setters and 67 years with Lefevers.

Ted: It isn't just the Yank doubles that are getting old here, eh?

My "newest" British double is from 1905, my oldest perfectly-functional side-by-side (also British) is from 1866. A well-made gun is almost timeless if (a big if) it receives proper care and feeding over the years of its use (I almost typed "lifetime" here). We all get fooled from time-to-time but... if you've been paying attention over the years of your own life, you'll learn a few things about what to look for in an older gun. Contrary to some strongly-held opinions here, American doubleguns from the 1890s were actually very-well made. It wasn't until economic forces (from around the world, essentially) forced the American manufacturers (& that's all of them, not just Smith) to modify their production processes to reduce the cost of the human component. The big difference today between a "fine" gun and all the others (see the above photo of the trouble-fee gun) is that rather-essential "human element". That's were the artistic part of any gunmaker's creation comes from. As the old saw goes..."beauty comes from art, art come from grace and grace comes only from God."