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Last edited by BrentD; 05/08/19 12:26 PM.
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It is a Crown Grade, no safety and looks to have the Trap Options, Ventilated rib, beavertail for-end, should have twin ivory beads, and recoil pad. The HOT and ejectors were another option. Before 1912 this was a Grade or NO. 5. but without the Trap Options.
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OK- thanks for the info-- A Crown Grade was the pre-1912 Grade 5E-- So, was the Grade 4E then the Eagle grade post-1913? And was either the 3E or the Pigeon Grade the later Specialty Grade? Thanks for the info-- would like to see photos of this Smith- price seems in the ballpark for a optioned graded Smith-- but need to see more on bores, and choke dims.. RWTF
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The No. 2 became the Specialty Gr. The No. 3 and Pigeon were dropped. Before 1912 all guns were number graded except for the Monogram and Pigeon, after 1912 the guns were noun named. A few grades went to 1913-1914 before being changed. I have a No 2E that letters to January 12, 1914 and was the last No. 2 made.
I believe that gun would go for $5000-$8000, all it takes is two bidders who want it and maybe higher.
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Little used, high condition, and cracked behind the locks and into the wrist.
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Yeah, so what is your point Ted?
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It is an expensive gun that cant be used.
Best, Ted
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When I zoom in on it I see a minute crack beginning behind the right lock panel. None on the left, and see no evidence under magnification that the one on the right continues into the wrist.
Can you really see a crack behind the left lock panel, Ted? I can't see one. You said locks, plural. Wondering if I'm missing something.
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There are cracks on both sides, and the crack on the right extends well into the checkering. 8K, and it needs to go to a gunsmith before you can use it. The list of really good guys, who will still work on them is getting shorter, too.
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Can you describe to me where you see the crack on the left side? I can zoom in about 7 or 8 times, but can see nothing. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong place.
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