keith, there is nothing much more to discuss anymore...i have realized that it has simply boiled down to a conflict between them and us... us being the haves with much to loose and them being the have nots with much to gain...historically, the have nots have worked, long, hard and smart with the goal of becoming haves...recently, their agents have decided to take what we have and give some of it to them and keep the rest for themselves, thus becoming super haves......