I've used 3/4 oz loads in everything I load for the last time the price of shot went up. Easy to do with 12 and 20 with the Claybuster wads. It fits well in AA hulls. Great at skeet and 16 yd trap. I haven't tried it with the 12 but with a 20 with modified choke I locked a trap for straight away and got back to the 23 yard line before the breaks got iffy.