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by Drew Hause
Drew Hause
Unfortunately I do not have Early Shotgun Concentrators and Spreaders: The First One Hundred Years of Invention to Control the Flight of Shot published by Gary Muckel in 2009

I came across this notice in the December 5, 1896 Sporting Life ; "rotary shot spreader"
https://digital.la84.org/digital/collection/p17103coll17/id/46545/rec/1

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Jan. 5, 1901

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In 1902 Brown offered an improved spreader device "The Hummer"

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Sept. 13, 1902

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Sept. 10, 1904

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U.M.C. introduced their "Short Range Shells" in fall, 1904
https://books.google.com/books?id=n-gcAQAAMAAJ&pg=RA6-PA57&lpg

Sept. 24, 1904 "powder gas is introduced into the shot charge"? no wad? hole in the wad?

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Dec. 31 1904

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by Drew Hause
Drew Hause
Peters Victor Spreader Load

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which were still offered in the 50s

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by Geo. Newbern
Geo. Newbern
Spreader loads have been discussed for years on this forum. Many, especially hunters criticize them as a danger to the dogs in upland hunting situations. I've used RST Spread-Rs and Polywad doublewides enough to have some opinions.

They're useless past twenty yards because they spread too much to effectively kill anything and become a real danger to the bird dogs. Within twenty yards though they'll make a better shot of you as well as convert your tight choked guns into bird killers, and any bird dog shot with them is the hunter's fault for shooting too close to the dog or the dog jumping into the line of fire.

Good information on the history of these interesting alternative shotgun loads in this thread...Geo
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by Stanton Hillis
Stanton Hillis
I killed two doves with one shot with Fiocchi Interceptors and my HE Fox, two seasons ago. Both were dishrag dead before hitting the ground. They were at about 25 yards, crossing, when shot. The maximum distance at which spreaders are useful depends on several factors, IMO, one of which is how much choke constriction the barrel has to begin with.

I'm a huge fan of the Fiocchis for close rabbit targets and really close crossers on a sporting clays course.
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by JBLondon
JBLondon
Originally Posted by Drew Hause
Sporting Life December 1, 1886
https://digital.la84.org/digital/collection/p17103coll17/id/51527/rec/7
"...kills game at 100 to 140 yards..." !

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Sorry for the necro post but I'm going back through the forum looking for Damascus case restorations. I actually have one of these sporting shrapnel shells that came to me in a gun case. I think that a person would hope to find the empty clamshell after firing one and at least some of the time recover it in order to re-use it.[Linked Image from i.imgur.com][Linked Image from i.imgur.com]
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by coosa
coosa
I have posted about this before, but will add it here for the benefit of anyone looking to develop a spreader load. I had a Beretta 425 12 gauge that I wanted to use for doves. It was choked F/M and the tight barrel would completely destroy a dove at 25 yards. Since I like to eat them, I had to figure out a spreader load if I wanted to use the gun.

I tried several types, but the polywad post style seemed to work best when patterning. It did have something of a hole in the center of the pattern, but I heard about a guy who solved that problem by putting part of the shot over the post. I used the Federal plastic hulls that have a very large capacity. A one ounce charge bar was used to drop the shot, then I added the post, and then another 1/4 oz of shot over the post. That eliminated the hole and the gun shot a very consistent modified pattern in the tight barrel. The spreader had some effect on the modified barrel, but not nearly as much as the full choke barrel.

Those shells took a little extra time to load, but they made the gun useful.
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