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Carl WH, Ted Schefelbein
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by Carl WH
Carl WH
I have a 12G side by side with a sliding breech block that I would like to hunt bird with.
Is there a reference archive where I can learn more about the gun?

I have been advised to hunt with 2.5" 12G shells. What load should I be looking for?

Thank you @ellenbr and @67galaxie for guiding me to this forum!

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by Argo44
Voila the picture from Shotgun Word. Ted will be along shortly.

[Linked Image from jpgbox.com]

Here's a Naturabuy.fr ad for a Staron made sliding breech gun.

Staron listed at 14 rue Fogerolles, Saint-Étienne.
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by 67galaxie
Glad ya made it over!
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by Ted Schefelbein
Ted Schefelbein
Hello, Carl.
Welcome to the site. I can’t tell you much about the name on your gun, but, I can tell you that the gun itself is the first 1984 Darne R model patent. In 1909, Regis Darne patented several new Darne models, including an improved version of the R model. In a very clever marketing move, the older model R was available alongside the new model, and, sold out the back door to numerous builders as an in the white, barreled and proofed action, that would be finished, stocked and sold. There was nothing in particular wrong with the first 1894 patent action, and the improvements were actually debatable. All of them would have sold for less money than the new 1909 patent Darne action, assuming the same grade.
Your gun is unique in that it is actually a monobloc barrel gun, it is unusual to see that on the old patent guns, but, perhaps it was cataloged and ordered for a customer that way. I would have your gunsmith measure the chambers, bore and chokes so you have an idea what you have, and go from there. The load you use will depend on what you are hunting with it, and how long the chambers are. Sometimes you will find old doubles with seriously pitted bores, again, your gunsmith will guide you as to how you should approach using the gun if that is the case.
It is a lovely old gun, likely produced between the wars, and should make a nice hunting implement for birds.

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by Carl WH
Carl WH
Thank you @Ted and thank you all. I inherited the gun from my grandfather who probably was the first owner of the gun used in the deep forests of Sweden sometimes on a horse back and sometimes accompanied by hunting dogs. I take pleasure in using the gun in memory of my grandfather and the family. It is a beautiful piece that I now know a lot more about.

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