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Gunflint Charlie, John Roberts, Stanton Hillis, Ted Schefelbein
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by Gt1900
This gun has less than two boxes of shells through it over the last 6-7 years. Now, it won’t eject the bottom barrel. It won’t go back to CSMC because their work is garbage (as seen from the bores). I live in CO, and want to get the gun usable again. I’ve heard rumors CSMC has had problems with springs breaking. Is this typically an easy fix for a semi competent gunsmith?

Edit. Is there an easy way to post pictures?
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by Buzz
Try some different shells. If you have any with real brass bases, try that first. Brass bases expand on firing then retract a bit, whereas steel bases expand on firing and stay that way.
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by Gt1900
Everyone I know who’s owned a CSMC has had issues with every single gun. With that said, nobody I know has bought one in years, so they may be better now. But when a well known high end gun dealers tells you he has no idea why anyone would ever buy a CSMC gun, that should say something. The chambers on mine still look like a 6yr old had fun using a Dremel on them, but I got sick of sending it back to CSMC just to have them screw up other things.
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by Ted Schefelbein
Ted Schefelbein
Originally Posted by John Roberts
Originally Posted by Ted Schefelbein
Originally Posted by John Roberts
Reamer marks in the chambers are hallmarks of all CSMC shotguns. I owned four RBL's and one A10. They all had reamer gouges in the chambers.



Bet Lonny didn’t even notice.

Notice the past tense, Ted. Gone with the wind...

Lonny still has his, down in the basement, next to his toy trains and porno movies on VHS.


“That boy has the common sense of a newborn turkey”.

His Dad.
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by Gunflint Charlie
Gunflint Charlie
Well, reading of the heretofore uniformly dissatisfied customer experiences with CSMC's guns makes me feel like I musta won a gun quality lottery. I bought my RBL 16 when they were first made and have been happily shooting pheasants and prairie grouse with it ever since. Not a high volume test, I've only shot a few hundred targets with it, but no cosmetic nor operating issues in quite a few years. (I'm not gonna count them up, I feel old enough already.)

I felt lucky with this gun from the outset. Though I wanted to specify a higher and straighter than "standard" comb, they didn't offer this. Turned out my gun came with 1-1/8" DAC and 1-7/8" DAH -- perfect for me. Yeah, someone else taking delivery of this gun could have found reason for complaint in those dimensions, but not me. Even the chambers are well and uniformly honed. I suppose their resale value has suffered from all the complaints ... so good thing I'm happy to keep shooting it -- at least until something inevitably goes wrong. smile

Hey Chief, I seem to remember some long ago talk with you here about you getting a 16 ga. RBL that weighed well under 6.5 lbs. Did that gun turn bad for you too?

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by builder
I think the satisfied customers are happy and are not interested in posting. I love my 28g. 30" RBL (bought in 2016) and my 20g. 30" O/U Inverness (bought in 2014). They have shot clays and been hunted. Never a problem. I hunted both of them for Quail in Georgia in late January this year. I just wish they would clean themselves.
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by ChiefAmungum
Hi Jay, been awhile! No, my RBL is just clicking right along. I did slick up the chambers and it is now an extractor gun. Past that it serves its intended purpose killing phez and the occasional grouse and very occasionally these days a Hun. No problems. My largest dissatisfaction is the engraving. less, or none would be more. Mine has great wood for the 2X.
I will add that it was a good deal at 3K. I wouldn't pay what CSMC wants now. Lots of other options.

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by ChiefAmungum
I see that CSMC has a lot of their guns at make an offer status! Here's your chance folks. I'm pretty well set up at this point in life, I must say one of their much maligned Savage Fox 12's might be OK at a large discount though. Still looking for the 12 RBL built on the 16 frame. Funny, don't see any of those for sale. Surely some of those owners have been so totally depressed by their purchase to offer one up, cheap?

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