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I restored a Model 1912 16 gauge not long ago. I like the gun a lot; only problem is the ejection of SOME hulls. Ejection port is slightly shorter on the model1912s compared to the later model 12s. To correct that issue: would the only alteration needed be the extension of the ejection port of the Model 1912--or would there need to be other modifications?(I think the bolts are the same in both models, but not sure about that.)Thanks! Gil

Gil, I would guess $150-200 if they knew what had to be done. Gunter Pfrommer would be a likely prospect for that job if you explained what had to be done. I did the process on a circa 1913 20 gauge nickel steel gun with 2 1/2" chamber and it worked well. Strange thing about the M-12 is that even the 3" heavy duck model has an ejection port that is not even 2 3/4" long ,as I recall. You can only open it to the edge of the chamber ring maximum, but it works. Regards, Marcus

No, the port could be opened but I use Remington Game Load hulls or 2 1/2" hulls, problem solved.

The 2 9/16 original hull is shorter than the 2 3/4 current hull and will catch on the port.
This is a diagonal measurement from the left side of the rim to the right side of the tip of the fired hull.

The Rem hull will work as it is shorter.

I have so many 16 gauge guns that I can be selective on ammo and gun.

Mike

p.s. To answer your question, only the port needs to be lengthened.

Gil:

Early M12 16s are quite a treat, as you probably already know. I also re-did a basket-case version a few years ago (a circa 1926 example) and discovered that somebody had already opened up the ejection port to shoot the longer shells. The tip-off for me was that the shape of the opening was no-longer exactly square (like the one on my 1913 M12 in 20). It has evidently been used like that for some time with no issues. Everytime I pick this gun up I am amazed by the weight and the handling. If I wasn't so-enamored by my doubles, this would make a spectacular bird gun. The original 28-inch Full choke tube had to be trimmed back because of a crack at the muzzle (somebody tried steel in it?). It's now 26 1/2-inches with about 10 points of choke.







Not a show piece, but mighty practical. I added the later Winchester pad for the extra LOP, I think I've got $200 in it. I use it mostly as a loner, but I shoot it lights out (& so does everybody else).