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#645739 04/17/2024 7:28 PM
by Vall
Vall
This shotgun has been offered to me because the owner knows I collect old 1800's single shot rifles, and had mentioned the name Carlos Gove to him. The shotgun is a side by side muzzleloader, and the sideplates are marked "C. Gove" and the top rib is marked "Carlos Gove Denver Col". Next to that the marking "Stub Twist" on the rib.
No idea as to who the maker might be, or whether it was simply sold from Gove's Denver shop, or if he bought barrels and locks, and assembled it in his shop?
Wondering if anybody might be able to identify the shotgun, or parts used on it from these images I got?

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#645786 Apr 18th a 10:22 PM
by Vall
Vall
Originally Posted by bsteele
I had a “C Gove and Son Denver Colo” 10ga breech opener for a while. The “& Son” mark began in 1876 and was only for a couple years. It was made by WC Scott on the Purdey second model thumb opener patent. Cool gun with a great name, but at 9+ pounds it was not an upland gun so it went down the road.

Interesting info! I didn't realize his business ever used the "& Son" on it? I have other Gove, Schoyen, and AW Peterson rifles but my other Gove stuff is just C. Gove Denver, Co. marked.
I have one of the Gove underlever conversion Rolling Blocks. It's been fully restored and has a 12 groove Farrow false muzzle barrel. A great shooter, and as much as I love Rolling Blocks the lever is a huge improvement over the thumb spurs.
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Once I have this in hand I'll double check the barrel markings. He told me today it has Birmingham proof marks and he thinks it's a 14 ga.? But he's getting info off Facebook, so I take it with a grain of salt.
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#646115 Apr 26th a 12:19 AM
by Vall
Vall
The shotgun arrived today!
Carlos Gove Denver, Col. marked 14 ga. muzzleloader shotgun too! Birmingham proofed, so made in England, but sold through Gove's shop.

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#645799 Apr 19th a 11:51 AM
by BrentD, Prof
BrentD, Prof
Originally Posted by Stanton Hillis
Vall, most gun enthusiasts haven't a clue what a false muzzle is. I have a new, unused, octagon barrel in my shop that I ordered, custom made, some 30 years ago to build a competition rifle with. It has a beautiful false muzzle. After I got it my keen eyesight waned and I lost interest in iron sight m/l competition. The barrel is perfect but, alas, there is no demand for such anymore.

There is still some demand and maybe even growing slightly in the right calibers and twists. Just gotta travel in the right circles.

I built a gun around a custom Bobby Hoyt barrel with Pope rifling. It has won a few matches. There are very few people who will build a false muzzle barrel these days.
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#646133 Apr 26th a 10:16 PM
by Vol423
Vol423
I shoot 14 gauge components from Circle Fly in my 15 gauge MH Blood ML. My gun was made in Memphis, TN with Osborne barrels. It's a left handed SxS restored for me by MV Highsmith late of Memphis.
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