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Posted By: canvasback OT - You can't make this stuff up - 01/03/16 11:34 PM
For those who think appeasement is helpful to the cause of reasonable gun ownership.....

http://www.idontcarryaknife.org/knife-crime/what-do-i-do
Posted By: keith Re: OT - You can't make this stuff up - 01/04/16 12:25 AM
That's very interesting James... and very predictable.

I wonder how long this informative thread will survive before the Thread Police whine and cry to Dave to have it deleted? I see the Open Carry in Texas thread has been purged. God forbid anyone mentions anything of interest that ruffles the feathers of liberals who support anti-gun politicians. They cannot simply move on or let it go. They feel compelled to cry and call for censorship. Also very predictable.
Posted By: CJ Dawe Re: OT - You can't make this stuff up - 01/04/16 12:28 AM
James ,I handy on choked - that is really something ! I especially like the "reasons why people carry knives"

Here I thought it was normal to carry a pocket knife everywhere I go ,I use it for all kinds of stuff ,never once thought of using it for protection - or to seem tough or gain the upper hand in a fight ...I have made a toothpick on occasion ,i've even whittled a spork while on a hunting trip because I forgot to pack one , I sharpen my pencils in the shop with it , just the other day we were Moose hunting , and I used it to split my sandwich because my buddy forgot his....Jeez ,I feel bad I should've asked him was it OK ,I would feel terrible if I had made him uneasy .

crazy
Posted By: Adam Stinson Re: OT - You can't make this stuff up - 01/04/16 12:50 AM
Wow... I was laughing at first because I thought the website was a joke.... Then I realized that it was real... And now I can't help but pity the fools who elected the moron that wrote those laws.

Adam
Posted By: OH Osthaus Re: OT - You can't make this stuff up - 01/04/16 01:55 AM
there has been a proposal for a while in the UK to outlaw sharp points on kitchen/cook knifes - round them off so they cannot be used for stabbing
Posted By: wingshooter16 Re: OT - You can't make this stuff up - 01/04/16 02:05 AM
Among a number of notable quotes to cite, I chose this one:

"If you are confronted by somebody who is carrying a knife, try your best to walk away, don’t run as you may fall over."

Mike
Posted By: canvasback Re: OT - You can't make this stuff up - 01/04/16 03:09 AM
Chris (Newf to those who don't know him), that too was my favorite section. "Reasons why People carry knives" Hahahaha!

I felt like emailing them and saying "you forgot the number one reason....to be able to cut something when I'm not in my kitchen" but I think the humour would be lost on them.

Now, I'm going to walk away from this thread....I'd run, but I might fall over!

laugh Keep it happy everyone.
Posted By: OH Osthaus Re: OT - You can't make this stuff up - 01/04/16 12:01 PM
Originally Posted By: canvasback

Now, I'm going to walk away from this thread....I'd run, but I might fall over!

laugh Keep it happy everyone.


yeah and don't run with sharp objects anyway
In my right pocket is the Schrade + my late Father gave me a long time ago. If carrying it is against the law, I've been in violation all my life. But in the left pocket is the S&W 360PD in .357. I know I'm legal carrying that.
The moral of the story of her brother's death is don't bring a knife to a gun fight. I think. It could be have a gun, also.


What a sad race of humans.


Best,
Ted
Posted By: Hoot4570 Re: OT - You can't make this stuff up - 01/04/16 01:20 PM
I used to travel to the UK on business. At a break in one of the unending meetings, there were 'biscuits' (cookies) served. They arrived in a sealed package and our host was having some difficulties opening it. I took over and neatly sliced it open with my pocket knife.

It was very quiet in the room for a while.

It wasn't until later that someone let me know that knives were verboten.
Posted By: Virginian Re: OT - You can't make this stuff up - 01/04/16 01:20 PM
That sad race is increasing in the US every single day. The schools are pushing liberalism/socialism full tilt.
Posted By: Cameron Re: OT - You can't make this stuff up - 01/04/16 01:58 PM
Ironic that I read in yesterday's Spokane paper that the city of Seattle has a law that it is illegal to carry a knife of a certain size and that someone was arrested and convicted of carrying a "kitchen knife" in a sheath that.
Posted By: eightbore Re: OT - You can't make this stuff up - 01/04/16 03:16 PM
The bottom line is that liberals, especially UK and Canadian liberals, are terrible people and should not be paid any attention.
Posted By: King Brown Re: OT - You can't make this stuff up - 01/04/16 04:15 PM
Santa leave a piece of coal in your stocking, Bill? Maryland is a liberal-friendly state.
Posted By: canvasback Re: OT - You can't make this stuff up - 01/04/16 04:39 PM
Originally Posted By: eightbore
The bottom line is that liberals, especially UK and Canadian liberals, are terrible people and should not be paid any attention.


Really Eightbore? Canadian liberals are somehow worse than American liberals? We don't have anyone to compare to Hillary or Obama. Good luck when Hillary is your new president.

I'm in the habit of expecting reasonable comments from you. That was just idiotic.

Edit to add: Chauvinistic nationalist comments are just foolish. Idiots are idiots regardless of where they live.
Posted By: King Brown Re: OT - You can't make this stuff up - 01/04/16 04:52 PM
Bill is a bit of a tease, James.
Posted By: Stanton Hillis Re: OT - You can't make this stuff up - 01/04/16 04:58 PM
Idiocy such as this makes me ever more grateful to the patriots who whipped the redcoats and sent them home with their tails between their legs. God bless them. Pray that we never reach that point.

SRH
Posted By: craigd Re: OT - You can't make this stuff up - 01/04/16 04:59 PM
Yup, good thing Dave has a sense of humor. Probably tickled with all the incoming pms.
Posted By: keith Re: OT - You can't make this stuff up - 01/04/16 06:17 PM
Originally Posted By: King Brown
Santa leave a piece of coal in your stocking, Bill? Maryland is a liberal-friendly state.


As long as we all know where you're coming from in these matters King! We already know where you stand on Gun Control and how much you support anti-gun politicians... or at least we all should:

Originally Posted By: King Brown
Democracies make choices. Americans accept mass murder to defend an individual right to bear arms in the name of personal freedom.


Do you remember this little exchange from Misfires King?

Originally Posted By: J.R.B.
Originally Posted By: King Brown
JRB, it is unusual for a Canadian to correct wacky American notions of the Second Amendment, particularly on a board with 28 pages under "Preserve the 2nd amendment thread---informational."


Then why are you HERE telling us our Second Amendment is wrong? It's not your country, it's not your Constitution, it's not your Bill of Rights, it's not your Second Amendment. It's OURS and get this straight King, there is NOTHING wacky about our notions of the MOST PRECIOUS GIFT our Forefathers gave us. Damn, I'm going to cut another check to the NRA. God Bless them.


Do you recall how you said the following even after mentioning Obama's previous Executive Orders imposing new gun control without Congressional approval?

Originally Posted By: King Brown
The Second is what originalists and others want it to be, the former seeing any variances as infringements. So it goes and ever will be. It is not inviolable and inalienable as some members want all of us to believe.

Americans love their guns. I said during the weeping and wailing of an anticipated Obama onslaught that any changes on his watch would be cosmetic. Gun rights are a minefield where any politician moves at her peril. The president's last 21 Executive Orders on gun control hardly got a mention here---if one, at all.


Originally Posted By: King Brown
May I butt in to help the question along, Craig? I believe Obama will be in the top third historically for what he did under the circumstances. I would vote for him again because the current alternative scares me. I couldn't vote Clinton. I believe Obama is anti-gun and can't go farther than he has because, as I have said here repeatedly for years, Americans are in love with their guns.


Originally Posted By: King Brown
It's hardly mean-spirited to note that I'm an Obama supporter. I'm proud of it, apparent here as long as he's been around. He's anti-gun but has kept his legislative gun in his holster to position his party for '16.


Obama is meeting with his Attorney General right now aiming to impose even more Executive Orders, some of which will likely affect the transfer of Double Guns. But as craigd notes, I'm sure the Thread Police are busy whining to Dave to make sure few people see this. Call-write-email your Congressman and Senators to let them know this is unacceptable and an impeacheable end-run around the 2nd Amendment and the Constitution.
Posted By: old colonel Re: OT - You can't make this stuff up - 01/04/16 06:39 PM
Why doesn't the government enforce the laws in place? I can only theorize as to their sincerity or lack of. What is fact is the current President's administration has not worked very hard on enforcement of current gun laws and now posits that what is required is an expansion of laws they they already are not enforcing.

I ask those who support that expansion to explain why the already existing law is unenforced with prosecutions for false submission of BATF federal documents?

I could not find current prosecution rates and below is drawn from a Washington Post (Democrat Party Mouthpiece)article:
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""The Facts

Ever since the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NICS) was established, government reports — such as by the General Accounting Office in 2003 and the Justice Department Inspector General in 2004 — have documented how few people are prosecuted. In 2002 and 2003, for instance, the IG found that only 154 people (much less than one percent) out of 120,000 denials were prosecuted — about an average of 78 prosecutions a year.

Starting in 2005, annual studies of the NICS system began listing the number of prosecutions per year that resulted from federal background checks. Generally, about the same number of people is denied through state agencies, but the records are spotty on how many state prosecutions resulted.

Below is the key data, with links to the reports in the date. The 2005 report did not break out the actual number of fugitives or felons, but just gave a percentage. We calculated the percentage of denials out of all denials because the data does not how many prosecutions involved felons or fugitives.



2010: 72,659 denials
34,459 felony convictions/indictments
13,862 fugitives
44 prosecutions (0.06 percent of denials)

2009: 67,324 denials
32,652 felony convictions/indictments
11,341 fugitives
77 prosecutions (0.11 percent)

2008: 70,725 denials
39,526 felony convictions/indictments
9,464 fugitives
105 prosecutions (0.15 percent)

2007: 73,992 denials
23,703 felony convictions/indictments
4,803 fugitives
122 prosecutions (0.16 percent)

2006: 69,930 denials
25,259 felony convictions/indictments
4,235 fugitives
112 prosecutions (0.16 percent)

2005: 66,705 denials
36.8 percent felony convictions/indictments
5.3 percent fugitives
135 prosecutions (0.20 percent)

Clearly there is a bit a downward trend here, with the low point reached in 2010, both in terms of raw numbers and as a percentage of denials. (We suspect there might have been a brief burst of enthusiasm for more prosecutions after the critical 2004 IG report.)

But the differences are really on the margins. Neither the Bush administration nor Obama administration ever prosecuted even ¼ of one percent of the people who failed to pass a criminal background check.""
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The denied checks listed do not allow for errors in the database which allowed ineligible buyers to purchase. It makes one more than a little ill to see the cloak of immunity that the current and past administrations have given those who may have lied on their forms. They most not value truthful official statements whether signed or otherwise under oath.


Posted By: keith Re: OT - You can't make this stuff up - 01/04/16 09:25 PM
Obama just had a news conference announcing his intentions to roll out new gun laws without Congressional consent over the next few days. Universal Background Checks will absolutely affect you and your right to transfer ownership of your Double Guns, even to your own children.

No comments from the guys who assured us that he wouldn't do it?
Probably too busy e-mailing Dave to demand that he delete this thread!

Before that happens, be sure to contact your elected representatives to let them know how you feel about this. Here is how you can get contact info for your Congressman and Senators if you don't already know:

http://www.house.gov/representatives/find/

http://www.senate.gov/reference/common/faq/How_to_contact_senators.htm

This is the short message I sent to my elected representatives last week:

Dear _____, I am writing to let you know that I AM NOT in favor of any additional laws, controls, and regulations that will affect law abiding gun owners including the Universal Background Checks that President Obama is advancing. I ask that you do everything you can to thwart or reverse any such measures he unilaterally implements. We do not need a President who does unconstitutional end runs around Congress and the Constitution. We do not need any more laws restricting the rights of law abiding gun owners that would have done nothing to prevent recent gun violence or terrorist acts. Thank you.

Obama is telling them, and the nation, that even gun owners want these new restrictions on our Rights. It is up to you to make sure they know how you really feel.
Posted By: eightbore Re: OT - You can't make this stuff up - 01/04/16 09:49 PM
Old Colonel's figures on prosecutions of those who either lied on their 4473s or were denied based on their previous records which should have prevented their ownership of guns, may not be 100% accurate, but you get the message. Criminals continue to try to buy guns under present law, and are not prosecuted when they are caught. Similar lack of prosecution for straw purchases would result in similar low percentages. Obama will not address these situations because addressing them would result in the prosecution of "CRIMINALS" which is not Obama's agenda. CRIMINALS vote democrat and Obama does not want such people incarcerated. As far as my original statement is concerned, I stand by it. Of course, we know the Brits have all but outlawed gun traffic, to no help in eliminating crime or violence. The Canadians spent tens of millions on a nationwide gun registration which worked so badly that it was scrapped. In the wake of the scrapping of the ridiculous gun registration, they elected another left wing Prime Minister, PM Junior, a second generation family candidate similar to what we would have if we elected Hillary. Take back my post about UK and Canadian left wingers, no way. In some minor way, the USA voters are in charge, regardless of the percentage of uninformed voters. In the UK and Canada, the voters are not only not in charge, they are absolutely unaware of what their leaders are doing to them.
Posted By: LeverHead Re: OT - You can't make this stuff up - 01/04/16 10:25 PM
The "what to do" section reads a lot like the bear warnings at national park trailheads.

Sorry, didn't mean to interrupt.
Posted By: James M Re: OT - You can't make this stuff up - 01/04/16 11:54 PM
Originally Posted By: keith
Obama just had a news conference announcing his intentions to roll out new gun laws without Congressional consent over the next few days. Universal Background Checks will absolutely affect you and your right to transfer ownership of your Double Guns, even to your own children.

No comments from the guys who assured us that he wouldn't do it?
Probably too busy e-mailing Dave to demand that he delete this thread!

Before that happens, be sure to contact your elected representatives to let them know how you feel about this. Here is how you can get contact info for your Congressman and Senators if you don't already know:

http://www.house.gov/representatives/find/

http://www.senate.gov/reference/common/faq/How_to_contact_senators.htm

This is the short message I sent to my elected representatives last week:

Dear _____, I am writing to let you know that I AM NOT in favor of any additional laws, controls, and regulations that will affect law abiding gun owners including the Universal Background Checks that President Obama is advancing. I ask that you do everything you can to thwart or reverse any such measures he unilaterally implements. We do not need a President who does unconstitutional end runs around Congress and the Constitution. We do not need any more laws restricting the rights of law abiding gun owners that would have done nothing to prevent recent gun violence or terrorist acts. Thank you.

Obama is telling them, and the nation, that even gun owners want these new restrictions on our Rights. It is up to you to make sure they know how you really feel.


Keith:
I have tried along with you and others to bring the dangers of this administration to everyone's attention only to be derided by the trolls that are allowed to infest this forum and have every attempt made to post what was actually going on deleted by them to circumvent the truth. Frankly I've given up in disgust.
Most of the membership here is complacent believing Obama and others of his socialist ilk are only after assault rifles, black guns , high capacity magazines etc.
GUESS WHAT Complacent ones: He want's your shotguns along with everything else to be traceable.
WHY? Because the goal all along is to disarm all responsible Americans in order to convert the United States to a socialist Country and untraceable firearms can't be confiscated.
An armed citizenry would be in the position to revolt and prevent this conversion. One of the first steps the NAZIs took before the holocaust was to disarm the Jewish Citizenry. One of the first steps Castro took after ousting the Batista regime and instituting Communism in Cuba was to make the private ownership of firearms illegal.
So all you members here that choose to remain silent go crawl back into your "safe places" and enjoy the firearms you currently own for as long as you're allowed to own them.
I'll go back to remaining silent now as I'm fairly certain what is going to happen if this isn't vigorously repelled.
Jim
Posted By: canvasback Re: OT - You can't make this stuff up - 01/05/16 12:11 AM
Quote:
Take back my post about UK and Canadian left wingers, no way. In some minor way, the USA voters are in charge, regardless of the percentage of uninformed voters. In the UK and Canada, the voters are not only not in charge, they are absolutely unaware of what their leaders are doing to them.



OBAMA has been your president for 7 years. You elected the idiot then did it again. Now you will be electing his successor, Hillary. And we are the idiots? Voters are somehow in charge in the US but not in Canada? Good God man, at least make sense.

You have the foresight of people 240 years ago to thank for your better gun laws than us and despite it being a constitutional right, you still have problems. But our left wing guys are somehow worse???
Posted By: treblig1958 Re: OT - You can't make this stuff up - 01/05/16 01:31 AM
I know CB hard to believe that she committed a crime that would land all of us second class citizens in jail while she leads or is tied with (statistically) every Republican candidate in the national race. Hard to frickin believe.
Posted By: keith Re: OT - You can't make this stuff up - 01/05/16 01:35 AM
Jim, I'm certain that's exactly why canvasback posted the link to the website in his original post in this thread:

http://www.idontcarryaknife.org/knife-crime/what-do-i-do

You are quite correct that many gun owners are complacent and also feel that if we give the anti-gunners our black rifles or high capacity magazines, they will go away and not bother our doubles and conventional rifles. But we've seen time and time again that if we give an inch, they will take a mile.

Hoot4570 is very fortunate that nobody turned him in for simply possessing a pocket knife on his trips to Great Britain. The penalty could have been 4 years in prison and a fine of 5000 pounds.

This is where we are headed if we simply sit back and do nothing and say nothing. But just two years ago, we stuck together and made our voices heard. We called our representatives and record numbers of new members joined the NRA. We got the attention of Congress and the Senate and gave Obama his most stinging defeat.

We can rest on our laurels and lose, or we can make our voices heard again. The anti-gun trolls will always be with us. Best thing we can do is to out them every chance we get. The thing they hate the most is their own words. That is why they are so happy that Misfires has been sequestered. Next is making it known how much they cry to Dave for censorship to protect their anti-gun heroes.
Posted By: canvasback Re: OT - You can't make this stuff up - 01/05/16 01:46 AM
Originally Posted By: treblig1958
I know CB hard to believe that she committed a crime that would land all of us second class citizens in jail while she leads or is tied with (statistically) every Republican candidate in the national race. Hard to frickin believe.


And much as it pains me to think it, I don't see anyone else beating her. Not yet anyway. Sure hope I'm wrong for all your sakes.
Posted By: keith Re: OT - You can't make this stuff up - 01/05/16 01:53 AM
James, I predict you will see the usual suspects right here defending Hillary Clinton, and swearing up and down that she will not be a threat to our Gun Rights. Just like they did with Obama. And when anyone posts information showing her extreme anti-gun tendencies, they will whine and cry and complain to Dave, and demand that such offensive words be removed from this hallowed website.

Just like they do now.
Posted By: canvasback Re: OT - You can't make this stuff up - 01/05/16 02:11 AM
Originally Posted By: keith
Jim, I'm certain that's exactly why canvasback posted the link to the website in his original post in this thread:

http://www.idontcarryaknife.org/knife-crime/what-do-i-do

You are quite correct that many gun owners are complacent and also feel that if we give the anti-gunners our black rifles or high capacity magazines, they will go away and not bother our doubles and conventional rifles. But we've seen time and time again that if we give an inch, they will take a mile.

Hoot4570 is very fortunate that nobody turned him in for simply possessing a pocket knife on his trips to Great Britain. The penalty could have been 4 years in prison and a fine of 5000 pounds.

This is where we are headed if we simply sit back and do nothing and say nothing. But just two years ago, we stuck together and made our voices heard. We called our representatives and record numbers of new members joined the NRA. We got the attention of Congress and the Senate and gave Obama his most stinging defeat.

We can rest on our laurels and lose, or we can make our voices heard again. The anti-gun trolls will always be with us. Best thing we can do is to out them every chance we get. The thing they hate the most is their own words. That is why they are so happy that Misfires has been sequestered. Next is making it known how much they cry to Dave for censorship to protect their anti-gun heroes.


Keith, up here in Canada I am a member of a gun site called gunnutz. It currently has about 150,000 members so on a per capita basis, an American site would need about 1,500,000 to compare. It caters to all types of gun owners, and all types of guns (except full auto).

They have and use a name for the kind of gun owner you are referring to. FUDDS. As in Elmer Fudd. As in can't see the obvious even though it is directly in front of you. As in willing to throw others under the bus as long as "they" leave his hunting long guns alone. Doesn't understand that he will just be the last targeted....shortsighted enough to believe he is not targeted. But as the knife website and attached blather makes clear, there is no end to the need to control by the left. Or the stupidity.

Gunnutz has whole sections devoted to gun politics and it was a central clearing house and distribution point for the fight against the long gun registry as well as supporting gun friendly politicians. It does all this with little discord among the members because a) it's moderated and b) the membership regularly call out Fudds and PROVIDE THE SPECIFIC INFORMATION THAT ALLOWS A FUDD TO BE INFORMED ABOUT THE CONSEQUENCES OF HIS CHOICES. Instead of supporting the hiding of that information.

This site, IMHO, is infested with FUDDS. They may know a lot about their doubles, they may even know a lot about the larger world outside doubles. But they don't understand the left and they are prepared to kick others under the bus with the vain hope they will be spared.

Now this site is privately owned. And it behooves us to behave in a way that makes the ownership (Dave) happy....or at least headache free. And I don't like to give headaches to Dave so I try to fly under the radar so to speak on this subject and make my points quietly so as not to stir up the Fudds too much and cause Dave headaches. Hoping, perhaps vainly, that the issues will become clearer for them with a few pertinent examples from GB or Canada that can be harbingers for thinking people. When someone like eightbore thinks the problem is that our leftists are somehow worse than his leftists, well....you can't fix stupid. Especially when he chooses to double down on it.

My apologies to Dave. I hoped this thread would be taken with a bit of good humour at the ridiculousness of the anti knife site while at the same time providing a discreet warning. Instead, it stirred up some sort of misplaced national pride regarding whose idiots are stupider.
Posted By: keith Re: OT - You can't make this stuff up - 01/05/16 02:25 AM
James, you are correct. This place has a lot of FUDDS. But we call them Liberals. Many actually think you can be pro-gun rights, and at the same time, support and vote for the most extreme anti-gun politician who ever lived in the White House.

This is like an abortion doctor claiming that he is pro-life. As said in the title of your thread, you can't make this stuff up. I don't enjoy seeing Dave being played as a fool either. But that is what the trolls are doing. Is Gun Nutz not a privately owned website?

You may remember this exchange from Ed FUDD when he was arguing that we should voluntarily give up semi-auto handguns to the anti-gunners to appease them before they enacted more onerous anti-gun legislation:

Originally Posted By: ed good
more and more guns means more and more guns will be mis used...it aint rocket science to understand that simple logic...

question is, what are we as responsible gun owners gonna do about the problem of too many guns in the hands of too many people?

or are we gonna keep our heads in the sand and let the pandering politicans impose some draconian new gun control legislation on us like they did in 1968 and again in 1993?


Here's a neat quote from Winston Churchill that describes the FUDDS:

"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last."
Posted By: canvasback Re: OT - You can't make this stuff up - 01/05/16 03:09 AM
Keith, Gunnutz is privately owned, operated for profit with ads from gun dealers (in a non obtrusive way.....I'm barely conscious of them because none are from classic double gun dealers)and as such is quite carefully moderated.

No allowance is made for stepping outside the boundaries. People are suspended or permanently banned if continual offender and threads are locked down the moment things go to far. The rules are clear and for the most part, adhered to. But political awareness and discussion is encouraged
Posted By: KY Jon Re: OT - You can't make this stuff up - 01/05/16 03:26 AM
So is my steak knife set a weapon of mass destruction or a assault weapon? Being a set of ten or twelve if has to be the same consideration as a high capacity magazine for a semi auto of assault rifle. And I did not even know it was that dangerous to anything but a good steak.

And I hate to consider the GI machete that I bought as kid 50 years ago. Another hated, senseless weapon of killing of plants of all types. The very vain of every atheist, non God believing for public educated victims, vegan on Earth. The weeds alone it has killed must number into the thousands, tens of thousands perhaps. All that sap on my hands. If only they had saved me from all that work my father had me do with it on the farm.

I could be a Xbox gamer today, sitting in some older persons basement, aimless wasting my life away. All the time feeling smug about how much smarter and vital I was than some poor schmuck who worked for a living and made my own money instead of waiting for some government handout. God, that is so sad I want to slice my wrist with a spork.
Posted By: keith Re: OT - You can't make this stuff up - 01/05/16 03:28 AM
That sounds marvelous James. It seems so obvious that you cannot have Double Guns or any guns without Gun Rights. But the mere mention of the subject here is enough to fill Dave's email box with complaints and demands that he purge it all. It doesn't matter one bit if it hasn't degenerated into any name calling or insults. I wish threads like this would gently remind the FUDDS where this is headed if we simply do nothing. But we have given them a thousand similar examples without it sinking in just how much they are shooting all of us in the foot.

It has become pretty obvious what the intent of demanding censorship really is. If it was truly concern for keeping this forum pure and on topic, there would be similar complaints from the same people about all of the other off-topic threads. I have provided plenty of examples of discussions that became somewhat uncivil over the years that had nothing to do with politics or gun rights.

By the way James, your PM box is full. You must be a real popular guy!
Posted By: old colonel Re: OT - You can't make this stuff up - 01/05/16 03:36 AM
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Originally Posted By: eightbore
Old Colonel's figures on prosecutions of those who either lied on their 4473s or were denied based on their previous records which should have prevented their ownership of guns, may not be 100% accurate, but you get the message.


The figures are a cut and paste from a 2013 washington post article, so if flawed the post is in error. As for getting the figures direct from the FBI website, their shortcuts did not work or I would have not used the liberal rag.

More recent data maybe worse I can't say as this not a "transparent" administration as they promised. Similar to you can keep you doc, and it was the video..........
Posted By: Dave Weber Re: OT - You can't make this stuff up - 01/05/16 03:38 AM
Enough...Thread will stand but is locked.

I did get a kick out of the knife thing....It's hysterical!
I personally carry 2...an Emerson Super Karambit plus a Zero Tolerance 0562.

I'd love to carry a prime time hawk but they are too bulky/heavy and although I have several I can't bring myself to buy the RMJ unit I really like (too expensive).

This in NOT a political debate arena.

This is a pro-gun website...and surprise surprise...I am pro-gun.
As in pro-all kinds of guns...not just pretty 2 barreled ones.

I suspect with high confidence the preponderance of the participants to be pro-gun and NRA members to boot.

If you are not pro gun you can either leave...Or, pipe down and be respectful of the majority. We really don't care to hear your opinion.

"Misfires has been sequestered" = Largely because I couldn't take the same geniuses pissing on each others feet all the time.

And in similar fashion...that is why this thread is locked.
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