Does anyone have a pressure figure for them?
I am pretty hesitant to use them in a vintage double, but I bought a bunch as hull cores for future loading.
Do I need to stick to my original plan and have someone run them through an A5 and not shoot them in 2 3/4 in fluid doubles ?
No data, but a fair amount of use tells me that they are too-hot for fragile stuff.
Hi, I agree with Lloyd. I doubt if they are lower pressure loads. I think you'd be better off sticking to your original plan.
BTW, the Herters hulls reload very nicely.
Good Luck!
Greg
What constitutes a vintage double?
I have a Ithaca NID, should I worry about the pressure trap loads generate?
thanks
jlb
JLB,
Certainly we all have our opinions. Personally I error on the safe side. I shoot lower pressure 2.5 in loads in all my vintage doubles. I do this whether is it a Damascus gun with short chambers or a Smith Long range with 3in chambers, or perhaps an NID mag with 3 in chambers. I do this for care and to reduce wear and tear not because I worry about a catastrophic failure.
In that statement I have likely answered my own question-- but cases of $5 boxes of 16 ga shells appeal to the cheap side of me.
I shoot them in several of my Belgian Bayard hammer guns, my Stevens 520 pump and my Darne.
I dont know the pressure but they have less recoil than Remington Game Loads or RST papers which I also shoot.
I've never had any gun issues with them. The Remingtons seem to have hard primers and I have some FTF issues with them.
I am a fan for whatever thats worth.
I have shot 6's in one ounce on SD pheasants through a 6lb. Sterlingworth mod/superfull with great success. I think they have two different one ounce loads. I used the slower one. Unfortunately, they don't seem to offer a 7/8 ounce version.
If the 16's are made the same place as the 20's they are made to CIP standards.
FWIW. One once load of 6s or 8s listed at 1165 fps on Cabelas site.
They IMO fall in between RST and Remington Game Loads as far as punch/recoil goes. I've shot quite a few of them and they seem to perform well.
In guns designed to use modern 2 3/4-inch shells(I would think that this includes Ithaca NIDs), they are a very good value. A little dirty, but otherwise great performance for the money. In an older, much lighter gun, however, I don't think a steady diet is a good idea.
They have too much recoil for my SXS guns. I shoot them in a M 31 Remington then use the hulls for light shot load low recoil target loads.
Boats
Does anyone have a pressure figure for them?
I am pretty hesitant to use them in a vintage double, but I bought a bunch as hull cores for future loading.
Do I need to stick to my original plan and have someone run them through an A5 and not shoot them in 2 3/4 in fluid doubles ?
I guess that would depend on what your vintage doubles are in 16 gauge. I go by the rule if the gun was built with the correct chamber size I really don't worry about the load. I just don't run a steady diet of them.
I have not shot as many as tut, but I'd tend to agree. 1 oz 8's @ 1165 fps in a Sterlingworth that's just over 6#, not an issue for me in the recoil department. Just checked a box. They are marked with the CIP seal, so pressure shouldn't be a consideration as long as you're shooting a gun with 2 3/4" chambers.
I wouldn't shoot anything in a gun if I were concerned about its ability to handle ammo loaded to SAAMI spec.
My only interest in the Herters stuff was so I could toss the empties from my 1100 and not pick them up. They won't cycle my gun.