Has anyone else read about this?

Thanks for bringing it to my attention!!!!

I'm happy to report I read that on my Apple Computer. No more microsoft anything for me.

Me too. Sucks to see an enemy this powerful. Some angry emails need to be sent.

If you think the new age techie gurus at Apple arent into social engineering and the anti everything craze, think again. I am sure if you were to see where their philanthropy lays, its in the save the whales,trees, spotted owls, snail darters, etc.
Just my opinion.

You may be right about Apple - you may not. That referenced report is just one more documented resaon for me to hate Microsoft... you should too.

Folks don't seem to understand that Hunters were the first Conservationists.
Microsoft will not get any more of my money

I have been banning Microsoft anything on my computers for ten years. Microsoft is mean spirited group that made my life miserable when I used their software. I started with version 1.00 of their old system and gave up when I had to constantly upgrade at large expense on a regular baisis without getting an improved product! Just a changed product that excluded those with the previous version from access. David

We all hunt so we understand the love most hunters have for the outdoors and the creatures we hunt. On the other hand the vast majority of Americans don't hunt and are horrified by the prospect. I have had friends come over while I had outdoor channel on tv and when a deer or something goes down they are disgusted and repelled. I ask them what they think about the steer they just ate going down under a sledgehammer and get a blank look.
One thing that's not been helpful to our cause is the over hunting done back in the day when game was much more plentiful:

http://www.parkergun.org/forums/forum1/3789.html

Here are some very nice guys in my club talking about how in the old days they would get 62 rabbits in a day. The next few comments are like, yeah, where did all the rabbits go? This is how we are perceived by outsiders. Go figure.

I'm involved actively at an international level with environmental protection, representing our rural interests, of course, and initiatives by Microsoft, Time-Warner, Home-Depot etc are a direct result of the successful invasion by American consumers of corporate boardrooms. It's not all a bad thing.

In eastern Nova Scotia, we've literally taken over provincial forest policy development, operating woodlots to the world's most rigorous and greenest sustainability standards, developed bottom-up without bureaucratic interference; that is, landowners are driving it instead of having things done to us.

We've discussed here a wide range of approaches to ameliorate conditions in the shooting sports. Our development model has become a case study of the Forest Stewardship Council, greenest of certification standards. Simply, it's organizing people resources in a different way to increase social and economic values.

King, being up in Canada, you may not be familiar with the Humane Society of the United States. This group has nothing to do with the local Humane Society which cares for abused and unwanted animals. HSUS (Humane Society of the United States) is an extremist animal rights groups that at times makes groups like PeTA look like moderates. HSUS is a lobbying group and nothing more. They deliberately use their name to fool people into donating money to them believing the moeny will be used to help abused and unwanted animals since a lot of people are not aware of the differences between HSUS and the local Humane Society.

There is nothing good or positive that can come from this group.

JM, agree. I don't see the extremists, however, as the problem. It's the"moderate" groups who know all the communications tools and how to use them, who organize so much better, widely and pervasively, to bring corporations and various levels of government around to their views.

They use the same carrot-and-stick I do as a good rule for making public policy. It's education in the best sense: through the economic. Words and abstract notions aren't enough. The antis built from the ground up, not leaving anything to hired gunslingers, and board rooms are paying attention.

In a globally competitive world, consumers are demanding "value added" from businesses. If you want us to buy your wood products, computers, papers and magazines, cars etc you had better listen to us, they say. The days are long gone when we waited breathlessly for Detroit's new models.

The antis didn't crash the barricades, as we do. They made an end-run.

King, HSUS is very well funded, very well organized, and they are in the local, state, and federal legislatures. They should not be taken lightly by anyone.

The American way, is to be self-reliant.
You just gotta work around the end-run.
Buy a hunk of nature - and let the geeks do what they do!

I urge everyone to join the U.S. Sportsmen's Alliance (info@ussportsmen.org). This group uncovers efforts to ban hunting, trapping, fishing, and even use of sporting dogs. USSA is a leader in taking steps to increase young hunters in this country. Currently, USSA is fighting the greatest threat to hunting ever seen in this country, a $100 million, 10-million donor organization consolidating the efforts of the Humane Society of the USA (HSUS), the Fund for Animals, and the Doris Day Animal League. Our local wildlife club got our local Humane Society to disavow affiliation with the national because of their recent anti-hunting campaign.

Time to switch to Linux, boys.....I have.

Mike Doerner