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Posted By: JBG Hill Rod and Gun - 02/14/19 11:17 PM
I'm interested in a gun they have and I'm looking for any feedback.

Thanks
Posted By: FlyChamps Re: Hill Rod and Gun - 02/15/19 02:44 AM
I've never bought from Charlie but, while in Bozeman in 2006, I went to his shop and had a good impression of him. I've not heard any negative comments about him.
Posted By: HomelessjOe Re: Hill Rod and Gun - 02/15/19 12:32 PM
The wood looks refinished in most of his photos.
Posted By: Sam Ogle Re: Hill Rod and Gun - 02/15/19 12:35 PM
Bought a gun from him some time ago. Everything was correct!
Sam Ogle
Posted By: RichardBrewster Re: Hill Rod and Gun - 02/15/19 12:49 PM
I have bought from Charlie and sold to him. No problems. He was good to deal with.
Posted By: L. Brown Re: Hill Rod and Gun - 02/15/19 12:50 PM
Same here. Only bought from him once, but very satisfactory deal.
Posted By: BrentD, Prof Re: Hill Rod and Gun - 02/15/19 01:05 PM
I've looked at his guns off and on for years. Never bought one but I've been tempted many times. He has some nice stuff.
Posted By: Daryl Hallquist Re: Hill Rod and Gun - 02/15/19 02:23 PM
Very good place to do business with.
Posted By: Geo. Newbern Re: Hill Rod and Gun - 02/15/19 02:59 PM
I thought the business had changed hands a few years ago. I tried to visit Hill Rod and Gun in its Bozeman Hotel showroom once while attending my oldest son's wedding near there. You have to make an appointment to visit...Geo
Posted By: GLS Re: Hill Rod and Gun - 02/15/19 03:29 PM
I have had good dealings with Charlie. Many imported guns from the UK have been refinished at some point in their lives. I am sure mine was. At seasons' end in the UK, guns were routinely shipped back to the gunmaker who would strip and clean, re-blacken metal parts as needed and refinish woodwork as needed. It is mostly with collectors in the US who devalue guns because of refinishing which has nothing to do with a gun going "bang-bang".
Posted By: Chukarman Re: Hill Rod and Gun - 02/15/19 04:40 PM
Charlie at Hill Rod and Gun is fair and honest. He runs a good shop and has many fine shotguns. I doubt that you will be disappointed if you purchase a gun from him.
Posted By: Hal Re: Hill Rod and Gun - 02/15/19 04:51 PM
A buddy from Bozeman and I visited his neat little shop in the hotel a few years ago. Seemed like a great guy, very friendly and open.
Posted By: Larryguy Re: Hill Rod and Gun - 02/15/19 05:01 PM
I've dealt with Charlie for over 10 years - buying and selling. IMHO, he is one of the best dealers in guns of our interest to be found. He's honest, and cordial. And he also does some pretty good gunsmithing on the old doubles too.
Posted By: KY Jon Re: Hill Rod and Gun - 02/15/19 05:33 PM
There must be some unhappy customer but I’ve never heard of any in years and years of being on the net. Always reported as being a bend over backwards type guy. Always. And truth is that half bad sales are the buyer fault. We miss things, we expect more than what we pay for or just buyers remorse.
Posted By: Marc Ret Re: Hill Rod and Gun - 02/15/19 06:04 PM
You might be thinking of the sale by Duncan Hill, the original owner. Last I knew, he was doing work in Africa, Uganda I believe. Duncan was a regular on the 16ga forum for a long time but I haven't seen him there in quite a while.
Posted By: Drew Hause Re: Hill Rod and Gun - 02/15/19 06:14 PM
Marc is correct
Uganda Orphans Fund
https://ugandaorphans.com/

Charlie also does stock bending
Posted By: Remington40x Re: Hill Rod and Gun - 02/15/19 06:16 PM
I've bought one gun from them, with which I am very well pleased. I've looked at several others over the years and Charlie has always been candid about condition and willing to provide any measurement information which I've requested. I'd buy another from him without concern.
Posted By: keith Re: Hill Rod and Gun - 02/15/19 06:46 PM
Originally Posted By: Drew Hause
Uganda Orphans Fund
https://ugandaorphans.com/


What does this have to do with Hill Rod and Gun, or the subject of Double Guns? Maybe you really intended to post a link for the NRA Political Victory Fund so we can re-elect Trump and other pro-2nd Amendment Republicans?

https://www.nrapvf.org/

Or perhaps you meant to post a link to the NRA Institute For Legislative Action so we can effectively lobby and fight infringements on the 2nd Amendment by Liberal Left Democrats:

https://www.nraila.org/

Does the L.C. Smith forum permit you to post this off-topic stuff, or is this a prelude to a long weekend in Uganda? I smell a tax shelter.

EDIT: What I quoted was your entire post until you edited it
Posted By: Geo. Newbern Re: Hill Rod and Gun - 02/15/19 06:47 PM
Originally Posted By: Marc Ret
You might be thinking of the sale by Duncan Hill, the original owner...


That's likely what I was thinking about. I'm sure I could have gotten in when I was there, but luckily the Bozeman Gun Show was also open and I went there. Bought a Fox pin-gun from a fellow said he was a former pro baseball player, George somebody. Nice guy...Geo
Posted By: bushveld Re: Hill Rod and Gun - 02/15/19 07:17 PM
Originally Posted By: keith
Originally Posted By: Drew Hause
Uganda Orphans Fund
https://ugandaorphans.com/


What does this have to do with Hill Rod and Gun, or the subject of Double Guns? Maybe you really intended to post a link for the NRA Political Victory Fund so we can re-elect Trump and other pro-2nd Amendment Republicans?

https://www.nrapvf.org/

Or perhaps you meant to post a link to the NRA Institute For Legislative Action so we can effectively lobby and fight infringements on the 2nd Amendment by Liberal Left Democrats:

https://www.nraila.org/

Does the L.C. Smith forum permit you to post this off-topic stuff, or is this a prelude to a long weekend in Uganda? I smell a tax shelter.

EDIT: What I quoted was your entire post until you edited it


Duncan Hill,(no longer an owner) founder of Hill Rod and Gun is involved in Christian ministries in Africa as well as the Uganda Orphans Fund.
Posted By: keith Re: Hill Rod and Gun - 02/15/19 08:37 PM
Originally Posted By: bushveld


Duncan Hill,(no longer an owner) founder of Hill Rod and Gun is involved in Christian ministries in Africa as well as the Uganda Orphans Fund.


That is an easy connection to make if you personally know him or his work. I doubt if more than 1% of the people who come here for Double Gun information know or care about that. When the Preacher posted his totally off-topic link, there was nothing except what I QUOTED from him... no reference to the former owner of Hill Rod and Gun. The Preacher edited his post after I QUOTED it, and then later added his dishonest crap about my failure to comprehend. Regardless, if the former owner is now engaged in ministries in Uganda, the Preacher's link has absolutely nothing to do with the original question which is concerned with accurate feedback for someone interested in dealing with Hill Rod and Gun today. But when you deal with a disingenuous preacher with an axe to grind, this is what you get.
Posted By: SKB Re: Hill Rod and Gun - 02/15/19 08:47 PM
Is it the lack of sleep that has you so irritable Billy? Up all night hacking members hard drives Billy? Really low life behavior even for you William. Have you only hacked one forum member? Hard to shut that barn door once it has been left open eh Billy?


Originally Posted By: keith
Hi there Shortshells. I see you are making your second post with your new identity. Still too cowardly to use your other Doublegunshop screen name? Do you still think I don't know who you are? You should have covered your tracks better when you sent a cowardly anonymous intimidation letter to my house back in December. Your cyber security sucks and you let me right into your hard drive up there in N.Y. Too late to close the barn door now. That's all we'll say on that interesting subject just now.

Posted By: L. Brown Re: Hill Rod and Gun - 02/15/19 08:56 PM
President Trump isn't a Christian? Darn. I've heard him say that he is. And I knew for sure he was, when he made a quote from "Two Corinthians".
Posted By: Chukarman Re: Hill Rod and Gun - 02/16/19 05:03 AM
Originally Posted By: bushveld
Originally Posted By: keith
Originally Posted By: Drew Hause
Uganda Orphans Fund
https://ugandaorphans.com/


What does this have to do with Hill Rod and Gun, or the subject of Double Guns? Maybe you really intended to post a link for the NRA Political Victory Fund so we can re-elect Trump and other pro-2nd Amendment Republicans?

https://www.nrapvf.org/

Or perhaps you meant to post a link to the NRA Institute For Legislative Action so we can effectively lobby and fight infringements on the 2nd Amendment by Liberal Left Democrats:

https://www.nraila.org/

Does the L.C. Smith forum permit you to post this off-topic stuff, or is this a prelude to a long weekend in Uganda? I smell a tax shelter.

EDIT: What I quoted was your entire post until you edited it


Duncan Hill,(no longer an owner) founder of Hill Rod and Gun is involved in Christian ministries in Africa as well as the Uganda Orphans Fund.


Keith is such a dickhead.
Posted By: redoak Re: Hill Rod and Gun - 02/16/19 06:49 AM
I have only good things to say about Hill Rod & Gun.

I returned one gun (that I now wish that I had kept) and my money was promptly refunded with no questions asked.
Posted By: SKB Re: Hill Rod and Gun - 02/16/19 11:14 AM
Originally Posted By: Chukarman


Keith is such a dickhead.



I do not have nearly that high of an opinion of him.
Posted By: HomelessjOe Re: Hill Rod and Gun - 02/16/19 11:29 AM
You scared he saw the gAy porn when he hacked your computer ?

Just saying...
Posted By: SKB Re: Hill Rod and Gun - 02/16/19 11:38 AM
I have nothing to hide Frankie.....unlike William(kieth)
Posted By: HomelessjOe Re: Hill Rod and Gun - 02/16/19 11:54 AM
That mean yer coming out ?

All kidding aside... do really think someone that hangs around here could somehow hack into your computer ?

Posted By: SKB Re: Hill Rod and Gun - 02/16/19 12:02 PM
My contact information is at the bottom of every post. I am not hiding who I am. It really takes a special sort of low life to stoop to this sort of behavior you know what I mean Frank?

Originally Posted By: keith
Your cyber security sucks and you let me right into your hard drive up there in N.Y. Too late to close the barn door now.



You really need to read the whole thread to see what a nutter Billy(kieth) really is.
It can be found here:

http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=535239&page=4
Posted By: SKB Re: Hill Rod and Gun - 02/16/19 12:06 PM
Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe


All kidding aside... do really think someone that hangs around here could somehow hack into your computer ?



Maybe, maybe not Frank. All kieth had to say was he was calling the guys bluff. Times past he has claimed his skills from his new job makes that easy for him. I really do not know. Quite possible kieth was just full BS. Nothing would be new about that.
Posted By: HomelessjOe Re: Hill Rod and Gun - 02/16/19 12:07 PM
Steve you've reached the point of obsession.


Posted By: BrentD, Prof Re: Hill Rod and Gun - 02/16/19 12:55 PM
Frank, you seem pretty obsessed yourself. You seem to need a lot of attention.
Posted By: HomelessjOe Re: Hill Rod and Gun - 02/16/19 01:05 PM
Only attention I need is to draw attention to you Freddy the forum free loading liberal BrentD...
Posted By: BrentD, Prof Re: Hill Rod and Gun - 02/16/19 01:42 PM
Originally Posted By: HomelessjOe
Only attention I need is to draw attention to you Freddy the forum free loading liberal BrentD...


Well, I thank you for that, as it promotes my cause. Keep up the good work. You and Bill seem to be the center of the doublegun universe now.
Posted By: Brookieslayer Re: Hill Rod and Gun - 02/16/19 02:55 PM
Excellent guy to deal with. What GLS said is true.
Posted By: keith Re: Hill Rod and Gun - 02/16/19 07:16 PM
Originally Posted By: SKB


You really need to read the whole thread to see what a nutter Billy(kieth) really is.
It can be found here:

http://www.doublegunshop.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=535239&page=4



Stevie, I can see what you found so upsetting about me pointing out your friend Steven's use of this forum for his free advertising campaigns, since you do the same thing on a slightly more subtle basis.

Steven had a pretty good gig going here, running his free advertising campaigns and selling his books and gunsmithing classes in the Classic Rifle forum for years, and more recently here in the Main Double Gun forum. Meanwhile, more honorable guys sold their stuff in the proper For Sale section, and paid Dave for the privilege.

That QUOTE from Dave, that I put in BOLD PURPLE TYPE... did I somehow misinterpret Dave seeming to say that people who use his forum for free advertising pisses him off?

Of course, hypocrisy and dishonesty runs rampant here. That is why King Brown complained that he felt I must be doing my own free advertising for the Republican Party by using that little picture of Ronald Reagan toasting "us Deplorables" in my tag line. I wonder what personal financial gain I was getting there? Yet your Liberal friend King would never say the same about your long running link to your business website, which is obviously for personal gain.

Of course, you and Steven aren't the only ones who do that free advertising. I let it roll off my back for years, but when you and Steven decided to personally attack me, I felt it was only fair to point out what you are doing. I am not a Moderator here, and don't concern myself with the unscrupulous actions of those who aren't attacking me. I can certainly understand that you don't want me to screw up a good thing. And I do understand that you feel personal attacks should only be a one way street. Sorry, it doesn't work that way with me.

Yeah, I'm a real nutter for exposing you all for what you are... but your pals who run their sick campaign to silence me and censor me by mining for dirt on me for months, sending an anonymous intimidation letter to my home, making repeated threats to post my personal information all over the internet, cowardly passing my phone number on to drunken slimeball Steven so he could call me slurring his words and and scream obscenities and threats, and more... well in your diseased mind, that's all perfectly normal and justified. And I'm a nutter... and a dickhead... and worse. OK then.

Of course, you and Chukarman see things from a unique perspective... with your heads planted far up each other's asses. Congratulations on finally coming out and showing what you are. Have a nice day.
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